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Re: email threading

From Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: email threading
Date 2019-04-07 05:15 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <87v9zqtmyn.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (permalink)
References <20190328113109.20e2a9ce.rsw@therandymon.com> <u5ddnf-0v5.ln1@rasp.therandymon.com> <q82g7q$9cj$2@dont-email.me> <87o95nuli0.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <eli$1904031259@qaz.wtf>

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>>>>> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:
>>>>> In comp.misc, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> wrote:

 >> Email uses In-Reply-To: header in place of Usenet's References:,
 >> albeit that only holds the Message-ID: of the "parent" article.
 >> References: typically provides a short(ish) history of ancestors for
 >> a given message, but I don't think I've ever seen a newsreader
 >> that'd make use of anything but the last entry in the list.

 > Try trn sometime.  It can show you, eg, when there are two messages
 > in between missing and a subject change with a diagram like:

 > (1)+-( )-( )-[2]
 >    |-(1)
 > 	  \-(1)-[3]
 > -<1> 

	It's nice to know that some software does use this information
	for good.

	Back when I've considered Trn some 15 years ago, my chief issue
	was its lack of MIME support.  Which is to say, I was expecting
	the NUA to convert whatever encoding used in the article to the
	one I use on my terminal for incoming messages; and at least to
	properly declare the one I use for outgoing ones.

	Of course, as I have since embraced monoculturalism and largely
	ceased to participate in non-English Internet fora, I may as
	well give it another try.

	A minor point is that with Emacs, I can alter the Gnus source and
	effect the changes immediately -- without even restarting Gnus
	proper (much less Emacs as a whole), which tends to make hacking
	a lot more fun (than going through the build-restart loop.)

	Also, Gnus is rather flexible as to what consider a "newsgroup."
	There're libraries to read "news" from an NNTP server, a spool
	directory, a Unix mbox file (including remotely, such as over
	SSH), a Maildir, a Debian BTS archive file [1], an IMAP server
	(I start Dovecot from Gnus for its indexing capabilities, for
	example), or an RSS feed.  Even if I switch to Trn for news, I'd
	still need some software for the rest.

[1] rsync://bugs-mirror.debian.org/bts-spool-db/

[...]

 > The code to do this is in wumpus.c, a nod to early computer gaming.

	A version of the game is still available in modern distributions,
	such as part of the bsdgames package in Debian (e. g., [2];
	though my favorite of those is Boggle.)  Unlike (sadly) many of
	the early X games (like Xlander, Xjewel or Xbattle), which is
	something I loosely plan to work on this summer.

[2] http://manpages.debian.org/wump

[...]

-- 
FSF associate member #7257  http://am-1.org/~ivan/

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email and time to think RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-28 11:31 -0400
  Re: email and time to think Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-28 15:33 +0000
    Re: email and time to think Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-03-28 20:26 +0000
      Re: email and time to think RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-28 21:27 -0400
        Re: email and time to think Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-03-29 03:17 -0300
          Re: email and time to think Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-03-29 10:05 +0000
            Re: email and time to think Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-03-29 16:46 -0300
              Re: email and time to think RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-29 21:49 -0400
                Re: email and time to think Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-03-31 17:27 -0300
          Re: email and time to think Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-03-29 20:20 +0000
          Re: email and time to think Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-03-29 21:17 +0000
            Re: email and time to think scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-04-01 16:28 +0000
              Re: email and time to think Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-02 01:29 +0000
                Re: email and time to think RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-04-02 21:00 -0400
                Re: email and time to think Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-03 14:33 +0000
                email threading Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2019-04-03 16:00 +0000
                Re: email threading Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-04-03 16:59 +0000
                Re: email threading scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-04-05 16:26 +0000
                Re: email threading RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-04-05 21:55 -0400
                Re: email threading Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2019-04-07 05:15 +0000
                Re: email threading Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-04-08 01:30 +0000
                Re: email threading Pabst Blue Ribbon <pabst@blue.ribbon> - 2019-04-10 14:18 +0000
                Re: email threading Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> - 2019-04-11 04:12 +0300
        Re: email and time to think Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-03-29 21:11 +0000
          Re: email and time to think Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-31 15:32 +0100
  Re: email and time to think Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-29 06:36 +0000
  Re: email and time to think visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2019-03-29 19:56 -0700
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