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Re: IE and IEE 754

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: IE and IEE 754
Date 2014-08-28 11:27 +0100
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"Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> writes:
>> 
>>> Evertjan. wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> If you are a sticker for correctness and these are monitary values,
>>>> like $ or [euro-sign], use integer cent values in variables, and
>>>> write decimals with string manupulation.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that storing $123.45 as 12345 is better than storing
>>> it as 123.45?  As ECMAScript implementations typically have no integer
>>> type, there is no difference regarding the precision of further
>>> calculations.
>> 
>> 12345 can be represented exactly in binary floating point (given enough
>> bits, and we certainly have that) whereas 123.45 can't be.
> <snip>
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. :) After quite some reconsideration I have
> to admit that I was wrong.  Of course, 123.45 can't be represented
> exactly as *binary* floating point number, while 12345 can be.
>
> However, it seems to me that multiplying 123.45 (0x405edccccccccccd)
> with 100 doesn't solve the issue, i.e. the result is not necessarily
> equal to 12345 (0x40c81c8000000000).

I think it must.  The ECMAScript specification imports IEEE 754's strict
rounding and representation rules.  The IEEE FP value closest to 123.45,
when multiplies by 100 must yield 12345 according to those rules.

-- 
Ben.

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IE and IEE 754 RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-08-27 22:44 +1000
  Re: IE and IEEE 754 John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-08-27 15:23 +0100
  IE and IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-27 20:59 +0200
  Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-27 22:04 +0200
    Re: IE and IEE 754 "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-27 22:35 +0200
      Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 00:07 +0200
        Re: IE and IEE 754 "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-28 00:47 +0200
          Re: IE and IEE 754 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-28 10:13 -0700
            Re: IE and IEE 754 "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-28 22:15 +0200
              Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 23:24 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-29 01:16 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-29 09:32 +0200
      Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-27 23:59 +0100
        Re: IE and IEE 754 "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-28 02:55 +0200
          Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 09:50 +0200
            Re: IE and IEE 754 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-28 12:21 +0200
              Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 13:42 +0200
          Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-28 11:27 +0100
            Re: IE and IEE 754 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-28 10:16 -0700
              Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 00:04 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-29 11:15 -0700
                IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-29 21:30 +0200
                Re: IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-09-02 11:22 -0700
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 20:42 +0100
                IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-29 23:29 +0200
                Re: IEEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 23:27 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-08-30 20:32 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-31 01:04 +0100
                IE and IEEE 754 Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-09-01 23:05 +0100
    Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-28 00:05 +0100
      Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 08:56 +0200
        Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 09:51 +0200
          Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-28 11:16 +0100
            Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-28 13:34 +0200
              Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-28 23:41 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-29 09:09 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 12:39 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-29 16:55 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 18:28 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 00:37 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-29 23:53 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 01:08 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-30 00:40 +0100
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 09:32 +0200
                Re: IE and IEE 754 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-29 11:22 -0700
                Re: IE and IEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 00:14 +0200
  IE and IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-27 22:08 +0200
    Re: IE and IEEE 754 RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-08-28 22:50 +1000
    Re: IE and IEEE 754 RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-08-28 22:55 +1000
    Re: IE and IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-08-28 21:50 +0100
      Re: IE and IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-29 09:43 +0200
        Re: IE and IEEE 754 (was: IE and IEE 754) Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 08:42 +0000
        Re: IE and IEEE 754 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-30 16:24 +0200
          Re: IE and IEEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 17:08 +0200
            Re: IE and IEEE 754 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-30 18:12 +0200
              Re: IE and IEEE 754 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-08-30 18:32 +0200

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