Re: Comma operator in for() statements

From	Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Comma operator in for() statements
Date	2020-03-23 18:18 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:

> On Monday, 23 March 2020 17:23:28 UTC, Richard Damon  wrote:
>> 
>> One BIG thing to remember about the design of C, C was designed to be
>> used by the skilled programmer, not the beginner. C trust the programmer.
>> 
>> With C, it is easy to make some mistakes that can cause problems, that's
>> ok, C expects the programmer to be able to debug the program and find
>> the issues.
>> 
> Except it's not the case. Software was and is notorious for not performing
> correctly. The issue isn't basically the quality of the programmers, often
> they are highly paid, and with degrees from good universities.

RD did not say highly paid nor did he say with degrees from good
universities (whatever they are).  He said skilled.  C was designed to
be used by a small team at Bell Labs deigning an OS and writing other
system software.  Once it escaped that environment, it was all set up to
become a hostage to it's own success.

-- 
Ben.

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Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-21 19:51 -0700
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 03:31 +0000
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-21 23:17 -0700
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 12:00 +0000
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-22 08:57 -0700
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 16:20 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-22 14:02 -0700
              Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 21:26 +0000
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-22 10:25 +0100
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-03-22 08:27 -0400
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 16:31 +0000
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 00:33 -0400
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-22 12:23 +0000
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 05:47 -0700
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-22 14:17 +0000
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-03-22 15:55 +0100
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-22 15:01 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-03-22 16:05 +0100
              Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-22 16:46 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-03-22 18:14 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 11:42 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-22 22:03 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 23:51 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-23 14:37 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 08:41 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Guillaume <message@bottle.org> - 2020-03-23 16:53 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-23 16:31 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-23 16:48 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 09:53 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-23 18:59 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 11:23 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-23 19:51 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-23 14:28 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 13:09 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 13:20 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-03-23 20:26 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 13:55 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 15:43 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 16:27 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 17:13 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 21:11 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-24 00:19 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-24 10:30 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-24 03:07 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-24 11:37 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-24 11:18 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-24 13:23 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-24 14:53 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-25 10:35 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-25 11:12 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ike Naar <ike@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2020-03-26 19:21 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2020-03-24 21:22 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-03-27 06:46 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2020-03-28 01:01 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-28 11:26 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2020-03-28 14:22 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-04-02 08:12 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2020-04-02 12:21 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-04-02 19:43 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-24 12:56 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-24 23:44 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-23 17:10 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-24 10:17 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-23 18:13 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-23 09:32 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-23 19:06 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-03-23 13:23 -0400
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 10:33 -0700
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Guillaume <message@bottle.org> - 2020-03-23 18:34 +0100
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-23 18:18 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ike Naar <ike@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2020-03-23 22:29 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-23 23:13 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2020-03-22 15:17 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2020-03-22 16:16 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 07:22 -0700
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Guillaume <message@bottle.org> - 2020-03-25 15:10 +0100
              Re: Comma operator in for() statements Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-03-25 15:18 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 16:27 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 15:07 -0400
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 11:33 -0700
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2020-03-24 20:25 +0300
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-24 23:25 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-25 01:55 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-25 11:01 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2020-03-25 14:59 +0300
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-03-27 07:42 -0700
              Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-27 14:51 +0000
                Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-04-02 19:20 -0700
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-24 20:01 -0400
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-25 02:05 +0000
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-03-25 15:13 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2020-03-25 15:05 +0300
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-25 10:04 -0400
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-22 14:49 +0100
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2020-03-22 09:24 -0600
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-22 14:51 -0700
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 20:13 -0400
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-23 12:16 -0700
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-03-23 13:16 -0700
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-23 17:16 -0400
            Re: Comma operator in for() statements scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-03-23 22:40 +0000
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Guillaume <message@bottle.org> - 2020-03-22 17:31 +0100
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-22 12:28 -0700
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-03-22 15:35 -0400
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-22 13:43 -0700
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2020-03-22 13:50 -0500
    Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 19:25 +0000
      Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-22 21:52 +0100
        Re: Comma operator in for() statements Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-22 21:15 +0000
          Re: Comma operator in for() statements David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-23 09:17 +0100
  Re: Comma operator in for() statements Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-03-27 08:02 -0700

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