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Re: _mingw_off_t.h

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: _mingw_off_t.h
Date 2018-11-28 13:33 +0000
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Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> Not like C where 'int64_t' is likely an alias for either long or long
> long, neither of which have a precisely defined width!

That wording is going to confuse some people.  int64_t is guaranteed to
be a 64-bit integer type (with no padding bits and that uses 2's
complement for negative values).  It will and alias for either long or
long long only when that guarantee can be met.

>                          M           C
>
> 64-bit signed int        int64       long int (Linux)
>                                      long long int (Win)
>                                      int64_t [1]
>
> 64-bit zero literal      0           0L (Linux)
>                                      0LL (Windows)
>                                      INT64_C(0) [1]
>
> print 64-bit 'a'         print a     print("%ld",a) (Linux)
>                                      print("%lld",a) (Win)
>                                      print("%I64d",a) (MS)
>                                      print(PRI64 a) [2]
>
> read 64-bit 'a'          read a      scanf("%ld",&a) (Linux)
>                                      scanf("%lld",&a) (Win)
>                                      scanf(SCNd64,&a) [1,3]

Readers who want to learn C should note that this is, again, misleading
(at best).  Not only is "print("%ld",a) (Linux)" wrong in at least three
ways (which I know you are not interested in), the table also avoids
discussing the advantages of C.

The reader (at least this reader) is left wondering how a 32- or 16-bit
zero literal is written in M, how you might write, say, an unsigned
32-bit integer as hex in M, and how M reports input errors.

-- 
Ben.

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_mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 14:38 -0800
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 03:19 -0800
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 12:48 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 13:29 +0000
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-11-26 22:02 +0800
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 16:09 +0000
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 09:11 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 06:34 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 06:39 -0800
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 16:06 +0000
          Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 09:01 -0800
            Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 17:04 +0000
              Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 09:19 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 22:19 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 14:11 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 00:29 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-27 09:44 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 01:49 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:21 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:25 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 04:51 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-27 13:19 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-26 17:26 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 08:16 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 04:18 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:48 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 05:09 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 14:39 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 05:54 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 15:28 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 06:58 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 15:03 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 07:13 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 16:55 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 09:02 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 17:11 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 09:17 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 17:48 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 20:35 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-28 15:42 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 02:44 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-28 23:52 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 03:42 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-11-28 15:48 +0300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 05:24 -0800
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-28 13:59 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 05:33 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-28 14:31 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 01:35 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 13:25 +0100
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 06:56 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 11:53 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-27 11:31 -0800
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 14:45 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 01:22 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-28 13:33 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 14:25 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 15:06 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-28 20:12 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 12:41 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-29 08:19 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 14:28 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-29 22:25 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 11:59 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-30 08:02 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 14:09 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-30 16:02 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-30 17:23 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-01 07:47 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-12-01 13:46 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-01 12:08 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-02 12:57 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-02 16:21 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-02 20:42 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-02 22:04 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-02 23:49 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-11-30 16:35 +0300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 14:19 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-30 14:58 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-30 10:33 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-30 15:45 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-30 14:22 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 15:20 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 14:54 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 06:03 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 16:09 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 16:44 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 22:08 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 22:29 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-30 10:27 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-30 01:49 -0800
                "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-01 08:18 +0000
                Re: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-01 18:02 +0100
                That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-01 17:31 +0000
                Re: That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-02 13:03 +0100
                Re: That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-02 23:05 -0500
                Re: That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-03 11:38 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 02:00 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-30 08:16 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 20:49 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-30 19:39 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-30 10:37 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 20:21 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-30 20:23 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-01 10:13 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 22:14 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-01 11:29 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-30 18:32 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-30 23:47 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-01 18:05 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-12-01 13:29 -0500
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-01 07:28 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-01 16:49 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-29 08:53 +1300
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-28 20:01 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 21:15 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-28 21:26 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 00:22 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-29 14:14 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 14:54 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-28 14:19 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-27 16:44 -0600
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-11-29 22:58 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 00:58 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 14:11 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 06:28 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 15:14 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 07:41 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 16:11 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-11-29 10:00 -0800
            Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 17:24 +0000
              Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:57 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 19:06 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 12:16 -0800
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 12:52 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 04:17 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 14:40 +0100
    What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-26 13:34 +0000
      Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-11-26 16:39 +0300
        Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 06:13 -0800
          Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 16:13 +0100
      Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 14:42 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-26 13:02 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 22:24 +0100
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 14:38 +0000

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