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[again] software complexity

From Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject [again] software complexity
Date 2018-11-04 12:35 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <87ftwh10md.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> (permalink)
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>>>>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:
>>>>> J.O. Aho wrote:

 >> The larger code base, the higher risk for vulnerabilities and
 >> systemd has been having security vulnerabilities quite often
 >> compared with the other init systems

[...]

 > I found a neat resource today.

 > "systemd" https://scan.coverity.com/projects/350

 >    484,654 lines of code.

[...]

 > https://scan.coverity.com/projects/firefox

 >  8,214,791 line of code.  101 CWE instances.

 > I think that means I should stop using my browser :-)

	Not necessarily, but you can certainly weight the features that
	Firefox offers versus the amount of code it uses for that.
	(And Firefox /does/ by default run code that likely is useless
	to you, if not outright harmful; see, e. g., [1].)

	And similarly for Systemd, BIND, Gnome, and whatever other
	software one may consider using.

	Case in point: I was using Firefox for years before I became
	aware (rather accidently) that it asks Google's permission for
	every website I access.  And it took a non-trivial amount of
	time to learn how to disable that "feature."

	I'm afraid that at this point I have better things to spend my
	time on than learning what kind of "perfectly sensible things"
	Systemd does behind my back to ensure "proper operation" of my
	system.  (Given that it was proper way before Systemd already.)

[1] http://ghacks.net/2017/02/12/ghacks-net-firefox-user-js-config-0-11-is-out/

PS.  FWIW, for casual Web reading I've switched to Lynx for quite some
	time now, keeping Firefox around mainly for online payments.

-- 
FSF associate member #7257  Pandora's Box -- Christofori / Funky Brains

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