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Re: OT: systemd

From Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers, comp.misc
Subject Re: OT: systemd
Date 2015-10-12 00:25 +0300
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <87bnc5qeri.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <511299436.466175933.550248.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <news.Sat.20151010.104408.PDT.655@mariposabill.com> <87wpuur04s.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <20151011094110.158ba0e0ef48d4a1e1c8922e@eircom.net> <mve5t9$j8c$2@dont-email.me>

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Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 22:31:31 +0300
>> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> wje@acm.org (Bill Evans):
>>> 
>>> > But I like to work (metaphorically speaking) on an old Harley where
>>> > everything could be adjusted with a wrench and a screwdriver, without
>>> > all this modern frippery.
>>> 
>>> That really hasn't been true for Linux for more than a decade. Numerous
>>
>> 	However it is still true for FreeBSD.
>
> And still true for Fedora. Any RPM I install has a corresponding
> source RPM. No barriers to adjustment there.

In that sense, you could rename all Linux system calls -- you've got the
source code after all.

There are architectural degrees of freedom, places that you are supposed
to tweak, and places that have been cast in stone by the distro.

For example, you are not supposed to use iptables and ifconfig to alter
the firewall or interface parameters directly because other (systemd)
components expect to be in full control of both.


Marko

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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-10 08:35 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:26 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:27 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:28 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-09 07:02 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-09 14:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-09 07:02 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-09 15:41 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-09 17:59 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-10 11:17 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-30 16:42 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-02 14:56 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 17:25 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 13:48 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 13:51 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-31 18:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 16:04 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-31 19:12 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-31 13:42 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-28 12:21 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-29 12:32 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-09-30 15:34 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-01 01:38 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hankvc@blackhole.lostwells.org (Hank) - 2015-10-01 16:27 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:21 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-02 03:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 07:32 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-10-02 13:46 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 13:09 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-06 19:44 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 19:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 20:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 21:00 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-31 12:15 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-31 20:31 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 22:04 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-01 18:46 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-03 00:17 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:10 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:05 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 05:42 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:59 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:02 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:15 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-27 15:35 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-24 23:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 09:43 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 06:55 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 17:19 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 09:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 19:23 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 11:26 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:43 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 15:01 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:22 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:39 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:18 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-31 20:38 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:35 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:37 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:27 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:36 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:32 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-24 16:52 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:16 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 12:22 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:41 +1000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 18:47 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 15:16 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:18 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:31 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:55 +0200
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:53 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:18 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:28 +0200
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-24 12:40 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 13:18 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 04:34 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-23 22:39 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:16 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 10:34 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:58 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-08-24 13:04 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:09 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 14:52 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 16:41 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:32 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-25 07:16 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-07 18:38 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 19:26 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 08:46 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 21:50 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 13:28 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 10:25 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-09 18:07 +0300
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 11:24 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-09 10:55 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 12:18 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-09 20:49 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:42 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 15:45 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-09 17:32 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 19:32 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 15:36 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-10 16:21 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2015-10-09 17:51 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-09 22:51 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-09 22:55 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-10 04:27 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-10 09:57 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-10 13:57 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:05 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 00:30 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 09:01 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 03:38 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 11:22 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:13 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 23:57 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:24 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:33 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-10 20:20 +0300
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 15:22 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-11 09:39 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:23 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-11 17:56 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 14:18 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 12:24 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 00:06 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-12 07:17 +0000
                OT: systemd (was: [Poll] Computing favorities)     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 10:44 -0700
                Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 15:29 -0400
                Re: OT: systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-10 22:31 +0300
                Re: OT: systemd Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-11 09:41 +0100
                OT: Wayland (was: systemd)     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 09:06 -0700
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:31 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 10:36 -0700
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 14:15 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-11 19:53 -0300
                Re: OT: Wayland Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-12 02:45 +0200
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 22:43 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-12 02:58 -0300
                Re: OT: Wayland Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 08:34 +0100
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 08:28 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 00:58 -0300
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 14:07 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 16:55 +0100
                Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:24 -0300
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 17:43 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 16:09 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 13:07 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:20 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:26 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:41 +0200
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 15:50 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 10:47 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 15:52 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 12:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-14 14:45 +0100
                Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:32 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-12 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 08:31 -0400
                Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-12 13:38 +0100
                Re: OT: Wayland Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0200
                Re: OT: Wayland Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:24 +0000
                Re: OT: Wayland Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-12 00:19 +0300
                Re: OT: Wayland Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 21:46 +0000
                Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:24 -0400
                Re: OT: systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-12 00:25 +0300
                Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 18:37 -0400
                Re: OT: systemd (was: [Poll] Computing favorities) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-10 19:38 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:08 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-11 17:31 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:23 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-10 17:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2015-10-10 19:28 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-11 07:12 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 19:45 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-10 07:12 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 00:39 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-10 10:11 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:21 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:55 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 04:45 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "John E. Davis" <jed@jedsoft.org> - 2015-10-12 17:53 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:01 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 23:57 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 15:03 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 15:46 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:30 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 18:15 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:57 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 20:15 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-09 15:09 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-09 20:52 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-08 21:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-08 12:07 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 13:15 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-08 13:06 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-08 12:29 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 12:44 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 15:37 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-08 19:19 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-09 06:26 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:40 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:14 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:46 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 07:29 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 12:10 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:06 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:02 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 23:35 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-07 12:19 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-23 15:27 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:10 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:28 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:27 -0500
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:48 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-23 21:32 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:57 +1000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:00 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:18 +0000
  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 11:31 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 12:08 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 08:22 -0700

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