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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Pointers, constant values |
| Date | 2015-10-18 00:31 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87bnbxnkba.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink) |
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Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 17/10/2015 19:39, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>
>>> Arrays, or the closest that C can manage. Whenever an array of T needs
>>> to be passed to a function, then invariably, a T* pointer will be
>>> passed instead.
>>
>> Well not quite invariably, no, but in the vast majority of cases, yes.
>> Why is that, do you think?
>
> Because to do it my way (ie. 'properly') requires an explicit
> dereference of the array (to index it in the callee). And because '*'
> is a prefix op, it also needs extra parentheses. So it is a PITA (to
> answer one of your other comments).
>
> When I have to write C manually, I don't bother either...
I'm sorry to be blunt, but I don't think you are arguing in good faith.
I don't think that when you write perfectly normal, safe, idiomatic C,
using the usual method of passing a pointer to the start of some data,
you are "not bothering" to do it right. I think you know you are doing
it the best way, but you just don't like it because you don't like C
(something that you are have made no bones about).
But let me atke you ate your word and see what writing C properly C
looks like. Here, for example, is what I'd write (because, according to
you I don't bother to do it property either) when I want a divide an
conquer algorithm. (I wanted to use quick sort but it's complexity
obscures the issue, so please ignore the fact that one would not use
divide and conquer for this problem.)
int max(int a, int b) { return a > b ? a : b; }
int amax(int n, const int *data)
{
if (n > 1)
return max(amax(n/2, data), amax(n - n/2, &data[n/2]));
else if (n == 1)
return data[0];
else abort();
}
...
int n, d[MAX_SIZE];
...
printf("max = %d\n", amax(n, d));
If you *could* be bothered, how would you write this properly?
<snip>
--
Ben.
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