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| From | Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp10 |
| Subject | Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f |
| Date | 2026-09-02 15:23 -0300 |
| Organization | Primarily biological and memetic |
| Message-ID | <87bjaf7br8.fsf@debian> (permalink) |
| References | (16 earlier) <874igb7fmv.fsf_-_@debian> <7wwlt6rhw6.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <874iga5jgr.fsf@debian> <87zey244ak.fsf@debian> <7wh5k95x5u.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> |
Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> writes: > Kragen Javier Sitaker wrote: >> Perhaps this grayscale is a product of the “PDP-11 emulator running the >> original XGP driver code” mentioned in the README > > Yes. Just printing the raw pixels to the output PDF doesn't look good, > and certainly nothing like the original XGP output. Angelo Papenhoff > and I did the "print emulation" trying to match the originals. There's > a metaball type model for dispersing and blending individual print dots. > You can see the code in the xgp files here: https://github.com/aap/pdp11 That sounds pretty reasonable, and vectorizing bilevel font bitmaps sounds a lot easier than vectorizing grayscale, which is what I thought the task was. Still more than I'm willing to commit to this week, but substantially less overwhelming. Under US law, font bitmaps are uncopyrightable. But I’m in Argentina, and I assume you’re in Norway. What’s the legal situation in Norway? Stimulated by my embarrassment over thinking TJ6 was called FASTAR, I poked around the repo a bit, but couldn't find which code you meant that might be rasterizing a metaball model. >> I wonder if TJ6 could be hacked to output a .dvi-like list of (glyph, >> x, y) triples? > > The output from TJ6 is an "XGP file", which is ASCII text interspersed > with control codes. This is sent by the printer spooler to the PDP-11, > along with font data. The PDP-11 does the rendering and sends it to the > XGP for output to continuous roll paper. There's a knife to cut the > paper into pages. I see. Does that mean that the “XGP file” has glyph indices but not (x, y) positions in it, because the PDP-11 has to produce some of those (x, y) positions from the font metrics? That might actually be a format capable of producing superior PDF rendering. Kragen
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boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 17:52 -0300
Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-30 06:43 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-30 13:11 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-31 05:14 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-31 06:54 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-31 13:43 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-31 13:56 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:34 -0700
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-31 18:12 -0400
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-01 15:12 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-09-01 05:59 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-02 15:23 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-09-01 05:45 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-09-01 07:07 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-09-01 17:36 -0400
the history of the Hershey fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-02 15:55 -0300
Re: the history of the Hershey fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:31 +0000
Re: the history of the Hershey fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-03 09:59 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-02 16:35 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:50 +0000
PDF file compactness (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-03 12:06 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-09-03 05:42 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-03 12:50 -0300
origin of XGP fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-28 10:44 -0300
Re: origin of XGP fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-09-28 07:33 -0700
Re: origin of XGP fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-28 22:53 +0800
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-09-06 08:40 +0000
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