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Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP

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Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> writes:

> On 12 Dec 2014 22:34:50 -0400, on newsgroups comp.protocols.ppp and
> comp.os.linux.networking, in article <87r3w4s2et.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
> Mike Spencer wrote:
> 
> 
> Are you using the "same" dialin scripts?  
> 
>> No. The other, still locally managed, ISP is still using text mode
>> auth.
> 
> Wow!  How do they get windoze boxes to connect?   If they're using the
> ordinary windoze Dial-Up-Networking app, that's a non-text mode, and
> you're very lucky that the ISP went the extra mile to configure the
> text mode.

I have to assume that there is a server config such that if Windoes
does whatever it does, it's recognized while if you submit text auth,
*that* is recognized.  I leave it alone on an If It Ain't Broke, Don't
Fix It basis.  In any case, I can jump in the car and get to *that*
ISP's NOC in an hour or so where the admin will be happy to offer me a
coffee. 

> Actually, it depends on what you've got in there. The file
> [/etc/ppp/options] is read when the pppd program starts, not when it
> needs a particular variable.  The idea was to avoid accidental
> confusion.

Didn't know that.


>> I owe you a beer (or Laphroig or other
>> beverage of choice) should you be in Nova Scotia.
> 
> Haven't been there in maybe 35 years...

Oh, well.  I haven't been in AZ since 1947.

> ...but glad to be able to help.

And much appreciated.

> ...but
> the usual mantra is "if you don't KNOW you need it, don't use it". 

Noted for future reference.

> Code speak for "we don't want your dial-up business - you must
> upgrade to our new Fiber service".
> 
> and now you have an idea where I'm coming from with that.   Verizon,
> which now owns/operates the copper in the New York city region has
> been pushing this one hard. See news://comp.risks/  such as Risks-
> Forum Digest Volume 28 issues 01 ("When the Landline Is a Lifeline")
> and 20 ("How Verizon lets its copper network decay to force phone
> customers onto fiber") as examples.

Yeah. I follow comp.risks.  I doubt that our telco -- recently merged
with Bell Canada -- is going to abandon copper real soon, given the
number of very rural villages, hamlets and single houses.  But I
wouldn't put more than ten bucks on a bet.

> 
>> Thank you very much for your point-by-point attention.
> 
> Glad to be able to help!
> 
>> Now, if the torrential rain will just stop, I can get out into the
>> yard or the blacksmith shop and do something more productive than
>> try to fix something that somebody else broke. (You're in Phoenix?
>> Torrential rain is probably not a problem there. :-)
> 
> Actually, we had a deluge a couple of weeks ago that flooded out the
> Interstate 10 when several underpasses had their drains clogged.  And
> over this last night, I got 0.35 inches, which brings me to 11.33
> inches for the year which is a bit over my 10-year average (10.90
> inch). 

We had about 4" in 36 to 48 hours. That was a follow-on to an already
very rainy autumn.  At the peak, we had between 5 and 10
gallons/minute seeping into our dry-stone dirt-floor cellar. I don't
know the typical rainfall average but it's very much on the wet side.

tnx,

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-08 22:46 -0400
  Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-09 18:08 +0000
    Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-11 04:07 -0400
      Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-11 18:55 +0000
        Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-12 22:34 -0400
          Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-13 22:49 +0000
            Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-15 03:44 -0400
              Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-15 21:55 +0000
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-17 04:44 -0400
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-17 18:43 +0000
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-21 03:26 -0400
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-21 19:19 +0000
  Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-12-11 15:01 -0500
    Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-12 02:02 +0000

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