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Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP

From Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Subject Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP
Date 2014-12-11 15:01 -0500
Organization National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID <alpine.LNX.2.02.1412111451440.14907@darkstar.example.org> (permalink)
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Mike Spencer wrote:

>
> Up until a month or so ago, I had a working dialup account with
> Ca.Inter.Net.  Their dialup phone numbers and machines -- Network
> Access Servers or NASs -- were provided by Telus and the account
> worked fine.
>
> Now Fibernetics.ca has taken over Ca.Inter.Net. The Telus phone
> numbers stopped working without warning.  The account still exists,
> mail server works fine but not dialup PPP.  After some weeks,
> Fibernetics provided a toll-free 844 number for dialup access to their
> own new server.
>
> Nothing I can do will establish a PPP connection at that number.
>
The ISP that I had from 2006 to 2012 (and which I still keep a shell 
account with), I had problems when I moved to them, instead of just the 
username, it wanted the whole email address.  Not something I expected, 
and I assumed it was an attempt to make it that much harder for someone to 
figure out how to break in.

Then aoubt 2010, they got a new phone number for dial-up, and it seemed 
like they were outsourcing, consolidating with other companies that still 
wanted to offer dial-up without having to maintain a block of modems that 
might not actually be used much.  I had the feeling I was one of the last 
dialup users, but have no statistics for that.

But when the phone number changed, it became more complicated.  If I 
recall properly (I only had to configure it once, and that was a few years 
back, and the file isn't on the old computer), there was a new username, 
and perhaps password, for the login at the third party server.  That makes 
sense, the third party wants only legit users to get in, but the ISP 
doesn't want to hand over a list of users and passwords.

So I wonder if a new, or at least modified username and/or password is 
required with this new system.  That would explain why you can the old 
mailserver but can't use the dialup.

That doesn't explain why they didn't tell you this.  Software isn't going 
to know that suddenly a new username is needed, and know the format.

This sort of thing can be annoying, "is it me or is it the ISP" and of 
course the software at their end doesn't want to be very specific, since 
it might give away clues to someone wanting to break in.

   Michael

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Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-08 22:46 -0400
  Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-09 18:08 +0000
    Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-11 04:07 -0400
      Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-11 18:55 +0000
        Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-12 22:34 -0400
          Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-13 22:49 +0000
            Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-15 03:44 -0400
              Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-15 21:55 +0000
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-17 04:44 -0400
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-17 18:43 +0000
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-12-21 03:26 -0400
                Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-21 19:19 +0000
  Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-12-11 15:01 -0500
    Re: Dialup PPP fails after new server, admins at ISP Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2014-12-12 02:02 +0000

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