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Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers

From Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers
Date 2015-03-04 15:32 +0200
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Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>:

> In article <clnda3F97bkU1@mid.individual.net>, Sylvia Else
> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>> Which is a fiction anyway unless the job is truly extraordinary. What
>> it really means is that the employer cannot find someone at a price
>> they're willing to pay, and prefers to undermine the earning power of
>> people in the relevant profession by importing lower priced workers
>> from elsewhere.
>
> Not always. In my case I was a University employee working at a US DoE
> Lab. So I was paid on the same scale as everyone else. My job was
> advertised in Datamation (i.e., nationwide in the US).

Yes, but without you, everyone else would be paid ten times as much.

It has to do with labor elasticity (<URL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticity_%28economics%29>). If you
restrict the number of specialists below an inelastic demand, the wages
shoot through the roof.

And the other way round: if you train or import an oversupply of
specialists, the wages plummet.

In conditions of inelastic demand, tiny changes in the supply can cause
huge swings in prices, as was visible in the electricity disaster in
California a decade back.


Marko

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If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-02 23:59 +0000
  Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-02 18:15 -0800
  Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-03-03 13:47 +1100
  Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2015-03-03 04:13 +0000
    Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-03-03 16:03 +1100
      Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-03-03 10:31 +0000
      Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-03 13:58 +0200
        Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-03-04 14:42 +1100
          Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-04 12:59 +0000
            Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-04 15:32 +0200
              Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-04 14:26 +0000
                Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-03-05 12:22 +1100
      Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-03-03 18:40 +0100
        Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-03-04 14:00 +1100
    Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers DD <usenet.xyzzyx@spamgourmet.com> - 2015-03-03 05:12 -0800
    Re: If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-03-03 18:34 +0100

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