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| From | Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp10, alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | origin of XGP fonts (was Re: reprints of old AI memos) |
| Date | 2026-09-28 10:44 -0300 |
| Organization | Primarily biological and memetic |
| Message-ID | <8733utij7x.fsf_-_@debian> (permalink) |
| References | (16 earlier) <7wecfgrtuh.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <874igb7fmv.fsf_-_@debian> <7wwlt6rhw6.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <874iga5jgr.fsf@debian> <7wld9l5xtc.fsf_-_@junk.nocrew.org> |
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Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> writes: > Kragen Javier Sitaker wrote: >> I wonder where they [the XGP fonts] came from? > > I read a story somwhere, but I forgot the details and where I found it. > It was something like getting a font catalog from a major foundry and > digitizing it by hand. > > People also made their own; the AST file format is just a text file with > pixel data, and on ITS there's FED (font "editor") to display a font on > the 340 or a Knight TV. I think SAIL had something else, certaily so > when TeX and Metafont were developed. > > "The Last Whole XGP Font Catalog" (play on "Last Whole Earth Catalog") > has a lot to say about the XGP. I was reading Butler Lampson’s 01988 retrospective on the Alto today <https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/61975.66921> and he answered this question: : The first imager, written by Peter Deutsch, drove the Xerox Graphics : Printer. This machine is slow (five pages/minute) and low resolution : (200 dots/inch); it is also asynchronous, so the imager can take as : long as it likes to generate each line of the raster. Only crude : imaging software was developed for it, together with a few fonts. : Raster fonts were unheard of at the time, except in 5 × 7 and 7 × 9 : resolution for terminals, or at very high resolution for expensive : photo-typesetters. The XGP fonts were developed entirely manually, : using an editor that allows the operator to turn individual dots in : the roughly 20 × 20 matrix on and off. They had to be new designs, : since it is impractical to faithfully copy a printer’s font at such : low resolution. These XGP fonts were later widely used in : universities. Kragen
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boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 17:52 -0300
Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-30 06:43 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-30 13:11 -0300
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers)f Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-31 05:14 +0000
Re: reprints of old AI memos (was Re: boxing all integers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-31 06:54 +0000
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