Re: Quotations revisited

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Quotations revisited
Date	2014-05-13 19:48 -0700
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Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
> Spot on. Closures being the flared trousers of programming!...
> Like I say, I'm willing to be persuaded, but so far, I can't see 
> a need for them. I can't think of anything that they're needed for,
> that can't be done already. Examples cited earlier in the thread by
> Paul looked like neat tricks - cool, but ultimately superflous

I don't remember what examples of closures I cited, but I've haven't
seen any serious proposal for having them in Forth, where they don't
really make sense in the absence of pervasive GC.

In Scheme and related languages, they are used all the time, for example
as the implementation mechanism for object-oriented programming.  You
make a closure that closes over some surrounding locals as instance
variables, then dispatches on its arguments when you call it, to act
like a method call.

You can read about them in SICP:  

  http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

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Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 01:00 -0700
  Re: Quotations revisited Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 01:50 -0700
  Re: Quotations revisited Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-13 03:51 -0500
    Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 02:25 -0700
      Re: Quotations revisited Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-13 05:08 -0500
        Re: Quotations revisited "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-13 07:46 -1000
        Re: Quotations revisited Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 11:03 -0700
          Re: Quotations revisited "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-13 08:12 -1000
          Re: Quotations revisited Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-13 13:22 -0500
  Re: Quotations revisited stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-13 09:15 +0000
    Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 02:39 -0700
      Re: Quotations revisited Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-13 05:10 -0500
      Re: Quotations revisited stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-13 11:47 +0000
      Re: Quotations revisited Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 19:13 -0700
      Re: Quotations revisited Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 19:48 -0700
  Re: Quotations revisited Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 03:43 -0700
    Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-13 12:35 +0000
      Re: Quotations revisited "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-13 23:56 +0100
        Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-14 14:15 +0000
          Re: Quotations revisited "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-14 20:48 -0400
            Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-15 14:16 +0000
      Re: Quotations revisited Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 23:30 -0700
        Re: Quotations revisited Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-14 00:32 -0700
          Re: Quotations revisited Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 02:02 -0700
            Re: Quotations revisited Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-14 08:02 -0700
              Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-14 15:10 +0000
          Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 02:09 -0700
            Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 02:14 -0700
              Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 02:15 -0700
                Re: Quotations revisited Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-14 08:22 -0700
            Re: Quotations revisited Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-14 12:04 +0200
        Re: Quotations revisited Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-14 04:11 -0500
        Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-14 14:25 +0000
          Re: Quotations revisited Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-14 20:04 +0200
            Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-15 13:50 +0000
              Re: Quotations revisited Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-15 16:24 +0200
                Re: Quotations revisited anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-15 14:40 +0000
                Re: Quotations revisited Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 10:18 -0700
          Re: Quotations revisited Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 21:57 -0700

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