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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: 🐧:\> |
| Date | 2024-12-21 14:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7fsi3lxa1a.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2024-12-21 14:03, Newyana2 wrote: > On 12/20/2024 5:44 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>> Linux pioneered integrated systemwide package management starting in >>>> about >>>> 1994. >>> >>> That's not a store. >> >> Well, it is a single tool in which you can search for and install any >> application. https://software.opensuse.org/appstore >> > > More to the point, it's a catalogue of ready-to-go programs... > A catalogue that's necessary only because in all these years > of disparate Linux versions, thery've never cooperated enough > to just come up with an analog to the Windows software > installer. Fortunately. > > Windows installers come in many forms, but almost without > exception they include all necessary files and are made to support > various Windows systems and versions with little more than a > double-click required to make them work. What the package > managers do is not "search for and install any application". And DLL hell. > They > list a limited list of programs that your particular Linux version > can install. And typically the names of those programs tell you > nothing about what the program does. Limited? I don't know the number, but it will be about a hundred thousand. With descriptions, not only names. > > The irony here is that just yesterday you were telling me that I > screwed up by installing a program that wasn't listed in the > Suse package manager because you believe those are the only > programs that one should use. It is not tested. It is not designed for it. Of course you can install things from outside, but you can not blame the distro for the problems. > > What you miss is that your attitude is actually one of the classic, > typical reactions of Linux fanatics: Any possible problem on Linux > must be due to user error because it's not possible to have a legit > criticism of your religion. That pigheadedness culture is a big > part of why Linux is still a broken mess after 30 years of Desktop > development. (Which is not a criticism of Linux per se, but rather > of Linux as a desktop version. The people producing it simply don't > get the point of a personal computer.) No, but you can not use Linux with a Windows philosophy and blame Linux for not being your way. Linux has its own philosophy, like it or not. If you don't like it, don't use it. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-18 08:44 +0100
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 00:02 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:19 -0600
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:28 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:21 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 13:44 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-19 22:12 +0100
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:05 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:14 +0100
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:42 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:30 +0100
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-20 12:22 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:55 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:41 +0100
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:26 -0700
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:44 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 08:16 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 08:39 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:57 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:49 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 14:06 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:16 -0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-23 19:10 -0600
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 17:23 -0800
🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 00:16 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:04 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 01:13 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:24 -0600
Re: 🐧:\> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-20 03:19 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 20:36 -0700
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 08:04 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-20 10:52 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-20 07:24 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:41 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 20:42 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 16:25 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 00:35 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 20:42 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 18:58 -0700
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Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 03:35 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 07:08 +0000
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 04:00 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 18:04 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:33 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 20:42 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 16:12 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 00:34 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 16:45 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 23:44 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:03 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:29 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 11:42 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-22 02:31 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 19:50 -0600
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-21 13:31 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 17:46 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-21 16:17 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:29 -0600
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-21 17:00 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 -0700
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 22:40 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:32 -0700
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 03:58 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 09:05 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 10:22 -0500
Re: ?:\> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 15:35 +0000
Re: ?:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-23 03:24 +0100
Re: ?:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:53 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 18:19 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-23 03:41 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:32 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 22:33 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:28 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 18:30 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:53 -0600
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:58 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-23 13:58 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 18:00 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 18:15 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-23 22:36 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 21:11 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 21:14 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 23:04 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-23 01:43 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-23 08:24 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-23 13:00 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-23 22:55 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 14:08 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 18:06 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-24 01:06 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-24 02:36 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:29 -0800
Re: ?:\> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 15:16 +0000
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 08:37 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 11:44 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 12:19 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 14:46 -0500
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Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 07:21 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 08:05 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 08:46 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-21 09:04 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 09:52 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:05 +0100
Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:38 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 08:53 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-21 07:36 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 09:30 -0500
Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 18:11 -0800
Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-20 07:21 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 15:32 -0600
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:07 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:13 -0600
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-17 17:33 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:51 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:18 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 23:11 +0800
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Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 00:48 +0800
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-23 13:04 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:39 -0700
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-23 17:10 -0500
Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:38 -0800
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