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From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: 🐧:\>
Date 2024-12-21 08:03 -0500
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On 12/20/2024 5:44 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

>>> Linux pioneered integrated systemwide package management starting in 
>>> about
>>> 1994.
>>
>> That's not a store.
> 
> Well, it is a single tool in which you can search for and install any 
> application.
> 

   More to the point, it's a catalogue of ready-to-go programs...
A catalogue that's necessary only because in all these years
of disparate Linux versions, thery've never cooperated enough
to just come up with an analog to the Windows software
installer.

   Windows installers come in many forms, but almost without
exception they include all necessary files and are made to support
various Windows systems and versions with little more than a
double-click required to make them work. What the package
managers do is not "search for and install any application". They
list a limited list of programs that your particular Linux version
can install. And typically the names of those programs tell you
nothing about what the program does.

   The irony here is that just yesterday you were telling me that I
screwed up by installing a program that wasn't listed in the
Suse package manager because you believe those are the only
programs that one should use.

    What you miss is that your attitude is actually one of the classic,
typical reactions of Linux fanatics: Any possible problem on Linux
must be due to user error because it's not possible to have a legit
criticism of your religion. That pigheadedness culture is a big
part of why Linux is still a broken mess after 30 years of Desktop
development. (Which is not a criticism of Linux per se, but rather
of Linux as a desktop version. The people producing it simply don't
get the point of a personal computer.)

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I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-12-16 22:27 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-16 23:34 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-12-17 09:45 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-17 10:35 +0000
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  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 07:13 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-12-17 13:28 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:08 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 11:28 -0700
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0000
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Undecided User <spam-here@linux.org> - 2024-12-18 00:47 +0000
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-18 08:44 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 00:02 -0800
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:19 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:28 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:21 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 13:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-19 22:12 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:05 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:30 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-20 12:22 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:55 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:41 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:26 -0700
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 08:16 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 08:39 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:57 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:49 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 14:06 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:16 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-23 19:10 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 17:23 -0800
                🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 00:16 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:04 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 01:13 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:24 -0600
                Re: 🐧:\> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-20 03:19 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 20:36 -0700
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                Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:41 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 20:42 +0000
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                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 00:35 +0000
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                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 07:08 +0000
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 04:00 -0500
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                Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 23:44 +0100
                Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:03 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:29 +0100
                Re: 🐧:\> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 11:42 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-22 02:31 +0100
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                Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:29 -0600
                Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-21 17:00 -0800
                Re: 🐧:\> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 -0700
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                Re: ?:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-23 03:24 +0100
                Re: ?:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 21:53 -0800
                Re: 🐧:\> T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 18:19 -0800
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                Re: 🐧:\> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 23:04 +0100
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                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 15:32 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:07 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:13 -0600
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-17 17:33 -0500
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:51 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:12 -0700
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:53 +0800
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-21 08:18 -0500
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        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-23 11:20 -0500
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 00:48 +0800
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