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Re: Forth.org status

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On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:47:12 AM UTC, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
> On 2/21/2017 4:43 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> > JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> writes:
> >> Shame to the whole communtity that neither Chuck's website is backed
> >> up nor Ting's and kept alive. No interst it seems.
> >
> > Also a question of whether Chuck or Ting want someone else to mirror
> > their sites.  Archive.org does it automatically but most of us random
> > users would want permission before going forward with something like
> > that.  Has anyone asked them?
> >
> > And what is Skip Carter doing these days?  If he's tired of running
> > forth.org, maybe he could turn the domain over to someone.
> >
> I asked Dr Ting, that I would mirror it for free, and if he didn't want 
> to maintain it himself I would do it, but he did not want his old site 
> mirrored, hopefully he will change his mind in the future.
> 
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

I am quite direct here: 

1. It seems the people responsible for this website are not responsible - then it means that they give a **** or are just lazy about their website responsibilities. This is fine for me, but THIS FACT should be made clear to the rest of the Forth community WITH THE RELVANT NAMES CLEARLY SHOWN AND DOCUMENTED.
 
As I said before: saving the contents is as well different from republishing it. This can be dealt with later. 

2. If Charles Moore, the inventor of Forth does not care, this is his decision, but I WANT IT IN WRITING FROM HIM   not as hearsay. 

This will mean that he abandons his own invention. 

Fine for me - his decision, but this is independent of saving the website contents.

3. If Ting decides that the information on his former website is dead and should stay this way - this is fine for me, 

BUT then writing to want to sell the sources of the work he did as shown in his  last two eBooks is somehow controversial and should be clarified with him. 

I am not sute about his health situation - but such a position would require that there is a backup option if he decides to not support the sales either and no replacement in sight.

It seems there is a big grave for Forth data at the moment and nobody is coming to the funeral.

And the name should be changed from Forth to something like for example Assembly Programming widely improved for Rapid Interactive Software Development  or APRISD in short ( this product name is copyright ExMark )

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Forth.org status Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-17 10:34 -0600
  Re: Forth.org status Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 11:14 -0800
    Re: Forth.org status Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-02-17 19:25 -0500
  Re: Forth.org status Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-18 12:57 -0600
    Re: Forth.org status Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-18 16:56 -0600
    Re: Forth.org status Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-18 16:07 -0800
      Re: Forth.org status Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2017-02-19 09:00 -0800
        Re: Forth.org status JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-20 11:52 -0800
          Re: Forth.org status Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-20 15:30 -0600
          Re: Forth.org status Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 -0800
          Re: Forth.org status Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-21 02:43 -0800
            Re: Forth.org status Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-21 05:47 -0600
              Re: Forth.org status JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-21 06:00 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 08:42 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 09:35 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:15 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-02-22 02:43 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:31 -0500
                Re: Forth.org status "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-23 09:37 +1100
                Re: Forth.org status Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:45 -0800
                Re: Forth.org status "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-24 12:12 +1100
                Re: Forth.org status hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-23 10:30 -0800
            Re: Forth.org status "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-22 21:35 +1100

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