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Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)

From usenet@only.tnx (Questor)
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Subject Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)
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Date 2020-09-02 07:04 +0000

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On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 12:24:41 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
wrote:
>On 14/08/2020 05.41, Questor wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 23:54:37 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:35:54 -0700, Peter Flass
>>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:38:28 -0700, Peter Flass
>>>>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2020-08-12, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Apparently no one here has had extensive experience in corporate IT or doing a
>> lot of end-user support.
>> 
>> Also critical are programs from independent software vendors (ISV).  An e-mail
>> client, a browser, and an office suite are not enough for many employees. Just
>> about every organization of sufficent size uses a handful of third-party
>> applications; a large company may have dozens.  It simply isn't economically
>> feasible for most ISVs, which are often small firms serving a niche market, to
>> port and support versions for Linux and/or the Macintosh.  They simply don't
>> have the customers for those platforms to generate the necessary revenue.
>
>
>On the other hand, the companies needing that software can join and 
>create their own, cooperatively, for a lesser cost in the long run.

That is ridiculous.

Competing companies are going join together and start an enterprise to write
software specific to their industry needs?  Companies whose core business has
nothing to do with writing software are going to start some sort of organization
to write software?  Nonsense.

Lost in the weeds among all this talk about system integrators and different
text file editors is that the context of this discussion is the question, "why
don't people (i.e., companies and organizations) drop Microsoft and use some
version of *nix instead?"

To which the answer was, and still is, third-party applications, training, and
support.

What Mr. Clarke seems to understand, and what other participants don't, is that
for most businesses, IT is pure overhead.  It is something to be avoided if at
all possible, and minimized otherwise.  

A widget manufacturer doesn't want to write widget-related software if there is
an ISV with a suitable product they can simply purchase.  And they don't have to
worry about finding a vendor with such a niche market product that works in
their computing environment if that environment is Windows.  The chance that an
ISV has a Windows version of their product is much greater than the chance that
they have a version for any particular *nix.

Similarly for training.  Said widget manufacturer will have an easier time
finding employees that already know how to function in a Windows environment as
opposed to finding widget-knowledgeable employees who are familiar with a
particular version of *nix.  Otherwise they would have to train their new
employees in using *nix -- and that's overhead.

The argument is much the same for support -- there are simply fewer options,
with all the potential downsides that might incur.  There's a slightly bigger
risk if the system integrator screws up, and it adds nothing to the manufacture
of widgets.

It used to be a mostly IBM world.  Now it's a mostly Microsoft Windows world.
Eventually it will change again, but that's where we are now, for better or
worse.  A widget manufacturer just wants to make widgets.  They don't care about
being in the software vanguard or sticking it to Microsoft.  And that's why
people don't drop Microsoft and use some version of *nix instead.

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Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 13:44 +0100
  Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 11:16 -0500
    Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:55 +0100
      Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 14:47 -0500
        Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 21:30 +0100
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 21:24 +0000
            Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:38 -0700
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:35 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 22:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 00:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:57 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:54 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 20:38 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 15:28 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:33 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:32 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:41 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 07:14 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 06:43 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:10 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 13:43 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:50 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:06 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:41 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:24 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:34 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:18 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:47 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 05:57 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:20 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-14 11:44 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 12:24 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:50 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 14:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:31 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:00 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 18:18 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 18:51 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 15:03 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 12:09 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 20:15 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 21:42 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-15 21:01 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 17:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:56 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-16 15:56 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:16 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 20:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 21:04 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 22:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 23:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:44 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-17 04:27 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 10:39 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 07:52 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 16:43 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-17 19:11 -0300
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 19:53 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 22:23 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-23 09:58 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-23 14:22 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:11 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 14:07 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:35 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:51 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 17:32 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-02 16:54 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 08:13 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 03:56 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-18 10:19 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 05:00 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 11:45 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 12:02 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-19 21:49 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:29 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:36 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 20:01 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:02 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 11:26 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:16 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:11 +0000
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 12:00 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:48 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 03:34 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 13:01 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-13 14:28 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 12:15 -0500

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