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Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)
Date 2020-08-14 12:24 +0200
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On 14/08/2020 05.41, Questor wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 23:54:37 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:35:54 -0700, Peter Flass
>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:38:28 -0700, Peter Flass
>>>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-08-12, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

> Apparently no one here has had extensive experience in corporate IT or doing a
> lot of end-user support.
> 
> To begin with, Linux (and also Macintosh) do not have the tools necessary to
> remotely support and manage hundreds or thousands of PCs and their access to
> corporate network resources.  While they may be subject to the same weaknesses
> as other Microsoft products, at least Windows has those tools.

Salt?

> 
> Also critical are programs from independent software vendors (ISV).  An e-mail
> client, a browser, and an office suite are not enough for many employees. Just
> about every organization of sufficent size uses a handful of third-party
> applications; a large company may have dozens.  It simply isn't economically
> feasible for most ISVs, which are often small firms serving a niche market, to
> port and support versions for Linux and/or the Macintosh.  They simply don't
> have the customers for those platforms to generate the necessary revenue.

On the other hand, the companies needing that software can join and 
create their own, cooperatively, for a lesser cost in the long run.


> For one example, consider a medium-sized hospital where I worked on an IT
> contract a few years back.  The phone operators had a custom program to answer
> the phone and another to look up phone numbers, not only for departments and
> employees, but also for an ever-shifting roster of patients.  The medical
> records department had one application to track patient diagnosis and treatment,
> and another to aid in the coding of same for insurance billing purposes.  The
> accounting department had general ledger software and other programs for
> dealing with the insurance companies.  The cafeteria used an application to plan
> patient menus and keep track of their food inventory.  One of the most
> complicated programs was for scheduling nurses.  Nurses are not generally
> interchangeable. Certifications, training, years of experience, and preferred
> shifts must all be taken into account.  Oncology, cardiology, radiology... just
> about every department had at least one application specific to their needs.  A
> similar situation exists in large corporations.
> 
> Even if an ISV wanted to offer a Linux version of their software, there would be
> significant support issues.  Which Linux distribution?  What version?  Which
> shell, which windows manager?  Some of these make a difference in the
> programming, and some in being able to offer end-user support, especially
> remotely.  Imagine walking a novice user through editing an .rc file with vi
> over the phone.  Imagine having to be able to do that for any combination of
> Linux distribution and shell.

Why the heck with vi? (or emacs)


> 
> There's also the training issue.  Simply put, companies don't want to train
> employees.  If they are using Linux and OpenOffice, where will they find
> qualified employees knowledgeable in that software?  Saying that those programs
> are "pretty much like" Windows and Office isn't good enough.  Currently the
> baseline in computer ability is competency with Windows and Office.  Any
> organization using Microsoft products is assured of a large pool of potential
> employees with experience using the same.
> 
> To be clear, I am not a fan of Microsoft.  I think its dangerous to be dependent
> on a software monoculture, and my opinion is confirmed with every story about
> virus infections, data exfiltrations, and ransomware attacks.  Like most people
> in alt.folklore.computers, I am technically savvy enough not to be beholden to
> Microsoft products should I chose.  I also recognize that that is a very small
> minority of people, and that there are compelling economic reasons why most
> companies are Microsoft shops.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 13:44 +0100
  Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 11:16 -0500
    Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:55 +0100
      Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 14:47 -0500
        Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 21:30 +0100
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 21:24 +0000
            Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:38 -0700
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:35 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 22:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 00:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:57 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:54 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 20:38 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 15:28 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:33 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:32 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:41 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 07:14 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 06:43 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:10 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 13:43 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:50 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:06 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:41 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:24 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:34 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:18 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:47 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 05:57 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:20 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-14 11:44 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 12:24 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:50 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 14:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:31 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:00 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 18:18 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 18:51 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 15:03 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 12:09 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 20:15 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 21:42 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-15 21:01 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 17:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:56 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-16 15:56 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:16 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 20:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 21:04 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 22:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 23:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:44 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-17 04:27 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 10:39 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 07:52 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 16:43 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-17 19:11 -0300
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 19:53 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 22:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-22 20:47 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-23 09:58 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-23 14:22 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:11 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 14:07 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:35 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 17:29 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-20 07:49 -0700
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 07:07 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-20 17:15 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 14:19 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 16:25 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 17:14 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 19:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 19:43 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:40 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:51 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 20:49 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 08:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-21 18:31 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 16:04 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 17:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 17:32 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-21 22:22 -0500
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-21 18:30 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-02 06:35 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-02 16:54 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 17:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-20 23:52 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 08:13 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 03:56 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-18 10:19 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 05:00 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 11:45 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 12:02 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-19 21:49 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:29 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:36 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 20:01 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:02 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 11:26 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:16 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:11 +0000
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 12:00 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:48 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 03:34 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 13:01 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-13 14:28 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 12:15 -0500

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