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Re: Undeservedly famous

From eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice)
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Subject Re: Undeservedly famous
Date 2018-04-16 13:05 +0000
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:26:07 -0600, Steve Dodds
<sdodds@nova-optical.com> wrote:

>On 4/13/2018 10:44 PM, The Zygon wrote:
>> I suspect that everyone knows at least one story or book which is quite famous, 
>> but which they think is crap. 
>
>  I love Robert Heinlein and have read everything he wrote, but Stranger 
>in a strange land was incomprehensible, I would have quit but I kept 
>thinking there's no way a Heinlein book can be this bad, it's going to 
>get better any minuet now.

As part of my ongoing quest to read all the Hugo winners (just
finished _The Wanderer_ and _This Immortal_ is up next), I've been
reading a LOT of Heinlein over the last few months.  Partly because it
was cheaper to buy omnibus editions of some of the earlier books in
order to get the Hugo winners.

So in the last four or five months I've read Farmer in the Sky, Rocket
Ship Galileo, Red Planet, Space Cadet, The Puppet Masters, Double
Star, The Door into Summer, Starship Troopers and Stranger in a
Strange Land.

At this point I can confidently say that Heinlein falls into the
"quite famous, everyone likes him, but I just don't get the appeal"
camp.  There were a couple that I thought were OK but for the most
part I just didn't care for them and didn't think they were all that
well written.  Why did this guy won five Hugos?

I'm wondering if maybe it's a generational thing - all his Hugo
winners were written before I was born (1967).  And I did like the
first half of _Stranger_ better than most of his stuff, so maybe I'll
like _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ which is next on the list after
_This Immortal_.

  -- Bob

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