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Re: Trump Has Successfully Tapped Into My Fear of Brown People & Anyone Who Isn't An Old, White Man

Subject Re: Trump Has Successfully Tapped Into My Fear of Brown People & Anyone Who Isn't An Old, White Man
Newsgroups alt.atheism, uk.politics.misc
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From Bill Steele <ws21@cornel.edu>
Date 2016-03-16 14:50 -0400
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On 3/15/16 10:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <part1of1.1.NDi$fplH8m6sCw@ue.ph>,
>   Malcolm McMahon <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Malcolm McMahon
>>> <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:11:45 -0400, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-03-14 01:06:18 +0000, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <g22bebp7l8mou39lnig4vaju274cmj2cbi@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>   NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:06:37 -0000 (UTC), Malcolm McMahon
>>>>>>>> <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No Country for Old White Men <nocoutry@white.man> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I don't care if our species would never reproduce again, why can't
>>>>>>>>>> everybody
>>>>>>>>>> be like me?   Old, stupid, uneducated, white and impotent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Emasculated white men love Donald Trump: The real reason a
>>>>>>>>>> billionaire
>>>>>>>>>> bozo
>>>>>>>>>> rules the GOP
>>>>>>>>>> Trump's rise is directly related to a certain white male limpness --
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> fear of a female president
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's no doubt that there's a frightening amount of anger in the
>>>>>>>>> American
>>>>>>>>> public at the moment. But I don't think it is, at root, anything to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> battle of the sexes or any subltety of psychology. It's down to a one
>>>>>>>>> simple,
>>>>>>>>> devastating fact, the decade by decade rise in median wealth that the
>>>>>>>>> West
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> enjoyed for most of the  20th century has stalled, basically since
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> millenium termed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is actually nothing to do with politics, and there's little
>>>>>>>>> politicians
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> any stamp can do about it. Its about globalisation, the same changes
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> substantially reduced poverty in the world, have seem an evening out
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> wealth
>>>>>>>>> between nations. That means those of us who were at the top are
>>>>>>>>> losing
>>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like most profound social change this is not the result of politics,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> technological change. I would say it's largely down to two
>>>>>>>>> inventions.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> Internet, and perhaps more importantly, the container ship.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now the gut reaction to this by those suffering from frustrated
>>>>>>>>> expectations
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> to build a wall arround their nation. It wouldn't _work_, of course,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>> the first thing people think about it and, for those not reflective
>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> second thoughts, that's as far as they get.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's happening in America at the moment seems to me frighteningly
>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> what went on in Germany in the '30s. There was the same rage. The
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>> for scapegoats. Trump is riding this rage not intuitively, but
>>>>>>>>> consciously,
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> calculation just as Hitler did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can easily say the exact same words about Hillary and Bernie. They
>>>>>>>> are using the exact same tactics, just directed at a different
>>>>>>>> population.  Wonder why people only notice Trump?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are Hillary and Bernie doing the same. Exact examples, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He kind of has a point... Bernie and Hillary are portraying the top 1%
>>>>>> as having reaped all the gains in the last 20 years - leaving the
>>>>>> middle and lower classes to slide backwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is that Bernie and Hillary are right.
>>>>>
>>>>> FPP agrees with their demonization because it fits his agenda.  Didn't
>>>>> expect much else from him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Our society,
>>>>>> since the 80's, has been rewarding the top 1% at the expense of the
>>>>>> bottom 99%.  Since the advent of the 21st century, the pace has just
>>>>>> accelerated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under the leadership of the Democrats.  How do you explain this when
>>>>> the party that is for "the little guy" (laughter) has been running
>>>>> things?
>>>>
>>>> Well, of course, they haven't been. POTUS hasn't much influence over the
>>>> ecconomy if the legislator blocks him from doing anything in that area (or
>>>> in
>>>> any area, for that matter).
>>>
>>> Don't forget that the President has not hesitated to use Executive
>>> Orders to get what he wants so the Legislative branch hasn't really
>>> any way of stopping things.
>>
>> Given the determination of the opposition he could have accomplished nothing
>> at
>> all without taking such measures. But, as I understand it, the division of
>> powers leaves the president with almost no levers to affect the ecconomy.
>> That's a function of the legislature. The Repulicans have been effectively in
>> charge of the ecconomy throughout most of Obama's administration.
>>
>>  From the start the Republicans made it an aspect of party discipline. NO
>> cooperation, under ANY circumstances.
>
>
> Yep. They put their party above the American people and their needs.
>
> I call that sedition.
>

They worked for the rich, who run the country, so they are patriots.

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Trump Has Successfully Tapped Into My Fear of Brown People & Anyone Who Isn't An Old, White Man No Country for Old White Men <nocoutry@white.man> - 2016-03-12 10:05 -0500
  Re: Trump Has Successfully Tapped Into My Fear of Brown People & Anyone Who Isn't An Old, White Man Malcolm McMahon <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> - 2016-03-12 17:06 +0000
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