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Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again...

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> Greg Goss wrote:
> 
> > Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Mother Nature seems to have a way to clean up the messes we make.
> >> She can do it with new diseases, natural catastrophes such as earth
> >> quakes or tsunamis, or even the far in between meteorite impact,
> >> which apparently wiped out most of the life forms during a long
> >> ago epoch in world history.
> 
> To assume that diseases and natural catastrophes are a godly punishment for
> "bad" deeds reveals a shockingly medieval thinking.  Instead, humanity
> usually creates its own problems by not living in equilibrium with its
> environment, and in general by not thinking (far enough) ahead:
> 
> - Diseases spread a lot easier if the majority of the population does not
>   have access to clean water and, due to constant warfare and corrupt
>   governments, does not have the opportunity to be educated how to live
>   healthy lives and to live those healthy lives (including proper
>   nutrition).  They also spread easier if (large populations of) animals are
>   held in captivity, and cannot live healthy lives (not least because they
>   come in contact with pathogens that are uncommon in or counteracted by
>   conditions of their natural habitat).
> 
> - Earthquakes are unavoidable on this planet, but if construction work would
>   consider them more, the results would be less devastating.
> 
> - Tsunamis are the natural result of submarine earthquakes.  But again,
>   if early warning systems would receive more support, the affected
>   population could at least be evacuated earlier.  And in the aftermath,
>   if there would be more international support, life could go on earlier
>   for those people.
> 
> - Probably _asteroid_ impacts are meant, because meteorites hardly cause any
>   considerable damage.  In that case, if humanity would support better the
>   existing plans to at least deter asteroids, they would not be that much
>   of a concern.
> 
> - The author has forgotten to mention hurricanes and their side effects.
>   While they cannot be avoided, virtually all experts agree that their
>   frequency and intensity, and thus the devastation they cause, is increased
>   by climate change, namely the increasing average temperature of sea water
>   where they usually originate and on their path to the islands and the
>   continents where they cause the most destruction.  The cause of
>   hurricanes is well-understood, but some people still refuse to see the
>   connection.
> 
> - The author has also forgotten to mention wildfires.  Again, they would not
>   be that intense and devastating if maximum temperatures simply were lower,
>   and they could be prevented or at least fought easier if the short-sighted
>   human-caused destruction of natural habitats for profit would not throw
>   the local water cycle off balance.
> 
> And so on.
> 
> >> We are multiplying like sewer rats and treating our environment just like
> >> that
> 
> (Much better.)  There is no argument about that.
> 
> >>and then one day it's that straw-man of "Global Warming" […]
> 
> The amok-crossposting author has no clue about global warming – or what a
> strawman argument is.
> 
> If you read <http://climate.nasa.gov/> carefully, you do not need to be a
> "Liberal" to realize that there is actually a problem with this planet’s
> temperature, and that it is caused by humans; you only do not need to make
> up your own facts.
> 
> PointedEars
> --
> “Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
>  testing your knowledge means everything.”
>    —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
>     in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)


wow, that's a lot of garbage you just through in here...

PointedEars???? 

a trekke fan?

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    Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-10 15:00 -0800
      Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 10:57 -0700
        Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 11:58 -0700
          Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2018-03-15 11:25 -0400
  Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-15 13:45 -0700
    Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-15 19:34 -0600
      Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-16 04:13 +0100
        Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-15 23:19 -0700

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