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Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again...

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Greg Goss wrote:

> Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mother Nature seems to have a way to clean up the messes we make.
>> She can do it with new diseases, natural catastrophes such as earth
>> quakes or tsunamis, or even the far in between meteorite impact,
>> which apparently wiped out most of the life forms during a long
>> ago epoch in world history. 

To assume that diseases and natural catastrophes are a godly punishment for 
"bad" deeds reveals a shockingly medieval thinking.  Instead, humanity 
usually creates its own problems by not living in equilibrium with its 
environment, and in general by not thinking (far enough) ahead:

- Diseases spread a lot easier if the majority of the population does not
  have access to clean water and, due to constant warfare and corrupt
  governments, does not have the opportunity to be educated how to live
  healthy lives and to live those healthy lives (including proper
  nutrition).  They also spread easier if (large populations of) animals are
  held in captivity, and cannot live healthy lives (not least because they
  come in contact with pathogens that are uncommon in or counteracted by
  conditions of their natural habitat).

- Earthquakes are unavoidable on this planet, but if construction work would
  consider them more, the results would be less devastating.

- Tsunamis are the natural result of submarine earthquakes.  But again,
  if early warning systems would receive more support, the affected
  population could at least be evacuated earlier.  And in the aftermath,
  if there would be more international support, life could go on earlier
  for those people.

- Probably _asteroid_ impacts are meant, because meteorites hardly cause any
  considerable damage.  In that case, if humanity would support better the
  existing plans to at least deter asteroids, they would not be that much
  of a concern.

- The author has forgotten to mention hurricanes and their side effects.
  While they cannot be avoided, virtually all experts agree that their
  frequency and intensity, and thus the devastation they cause, is increased
  by climate change, namely the increasing average temperature of sea water
  where they usually originate and on their path to the islands and the
  continents where they cause the most destruction.  The cause of
  hurricanes is well-understood, but some people still refuse to see the
  connection.

- The author has also forgotten to mention wildfires.  Again, they would not
  be that intense and devastating if maximum temperatures simply were lower,
  and they could be prevented or at least fought easier if the short-sighted
  human-caused destruction of natural habitats for profit would not throw
  the local water cycle off balance.

And so on.

>> We are multiplying like sewer rats and treating our environment just like
>> that

(Much better.)  There is no argument about that.

>>and then one day it's that straw-man of "Global Warming" […]

The amok-crossposting author has no clue about global warming – or what a 
strawman argument is.

If you read <http://climate.nasa.gov/> carefully, you do not need to be a 
"Liberal" to realize that there is actually a problem with this planet’s 
temperature, and that it is caused by humans; you only do not need to make 
up your own facts.


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-10 11:39 -0800
  Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-10 14:37 -0800
    Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-10 15:00 -0800
      Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 10:57 -0700
        Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 11:58 -0700
          Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2018-03-15 11:25 -0400
  Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-15 13:45 -0700
    Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-15 19:34 -0600
      Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-16 04:13 +0100
        Re: The Achitects of Fear are at it again... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-15 23:19 -0700

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