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| Message-ID | <596E595C.316A@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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| Date | 2017-07-18 11:54 -0700 |
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
| Newsgroups | sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.astronomy |
| Subject | Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox |
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gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:06:18 PM UTC+5:30, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does the future exist without time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but not after tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what > > > > > > > will you see? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else... > > > > > > > > > > > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about. > > > > > > > > > > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you???? > > > > > > > > Even Albert Einstein didn't understand... > > > > > > > > "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > I thought everyone understood this by now... > > > > > > > > That the future is what....you make it. > > > > > > > > I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon... > > > > > > > > It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand. > > > > > > > > That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon! > > > > > > > > Life is what you make it means....all of it!!! > > > > > > > > even the moon. > > > > > > I really don't know how to explain it in terms that you can understand it. You're gonna have take one of my classes... > > > > > > > > > > In other words...one minute forward in the future universal time, there is no earth, moon, and universe. It just develops in time. > > Any other theories for time dilation in gravitational field? Like so many others here..you're too close to the "time intermediate wheel" to see the ...Clock.
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