Re: The Speed of Thought

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Date	2017-04-27 23:16 -0700
From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject	Re: The Speed of Thought
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benj wrote:
> 
> On 4/27/2017 2:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jonathan Doolin wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:40:02 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >>> On 4/25/2017 5:53 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> >>>> Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> >>>> exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> >>>> accept your postulate.
> >>>
> >>> I postulate it. Persistence of consciousness.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That's not much of a postulate.
> >> It's not even a complete sentence.
> >> And "persistence of consciousness"
> >> certainly doesn't clearly demonstrate
> >> that "mind can exist apart from brain."
> >>
> >> My computer shows persistence of memory
> >> but that's because it contains
> >> billions of memory cells
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_cell_(binary)
> >> INSIDE it.
> >>
> >> In the same way,
> >> I have persistence of consciousness
> >> because of internal memory.
> >>
> >> What the computer cannot do
> >> (I would postulate)
> >> is experience frustration, contentment, pain, or lust
> >> or experience the color of green or blue.
> >> or desire to play a video game.
> >> It can go through the actions,
> >> and make me believe it feels,
> >> because someone has programmed it to do so.
> >> But it does not feel.
> >
> >
> > There is no such thing as 'persistence of consciouness'...
> 
> And the way you know this is? Ah, Superpowers.
> 
> > you never heard of, "unconsciouness"???
> >
> > When you sleep, ...you become unconsciouns to the point of no
> > consciouness...then the brain contiunes to process thought/information.
> >
> > No mind or consciouness is necessary.
> >



There is no proof that 'consciouness' exist.

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The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-22 11:37 -0700
  Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 04:35 +0000
    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-22 22:05 -0700
      Re: The Speed of Thought Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-04-23 14:23 +0200
        Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 14:17 +0000
          Re: The Speed of Thought "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:07 -0400
            Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 16:31 +0000
              Re: The Speed of Thought "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 23:11 -0400
        Re: The Speed of Thought Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-04-23 10:14 -0600
          Re: The Speed of Thought Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:43 -0500
            Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 20:36 +0000
              Re: The Speed of Thought Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 19:56 -0500
          Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 16:24 +0000
      Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 12:35 +0000
        Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 13:00 -0700
          Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 23:38 +0000
            Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 21:15 -0700
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 22:38 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-24 06:02 +0000
        Re: The Speed of Thought "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:52 -0700
  Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-24 16:55 +1000
    Re: The Speed of Thought Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:09 +0200
      Re: The Speed of Thought Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 19:37 +0000
    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-24 09:42 -0700
      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-24 10:22 -0700
      Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-25 12:03 +1000
        Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-25 00:16 -0700
          Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-25 17:42 +1000
          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:58 -0700
            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:25 +0000
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 20:49 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:48 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:37 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:36 +0000
        Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 17:18 -0400
          Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-25 21:53 +0000
            Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 19:39 -0400
              Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-26 04:36 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 06:07 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:33 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:05 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:42 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:00 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 03:13 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 04:32 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 14:46 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 11:29 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 16:32 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:22 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:16 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:43 -0700
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:50 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-27 17:21 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:16 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:59 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:47 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:54 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:24 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:18 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:45 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:38 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:40 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-29 10:47 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-04 23:42 -0700
            Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:41 -0700
              Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-27 17:20 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:15 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:57 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:41 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:45 +0000
  Re: The Speed of Thought SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-04-24 07:48 -0400
    Re: The Speed of Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-24 20:36 +0200

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