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Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians?
Date 2016-06-30 16:16 -0700
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> At 53:28 in this video Joao Magueijo declares allegiance to the Newtonian space and time:
> 
> http://pirsa.org/displayFlash.php?id=16060116
>  FUNDAMENTAL TIME, Wednesday Jun 29, 2016, Speaker(s): Laurent Freidel, Lee Smolin, Joao Magueijo, 53:28
> 
> Here is another striking statement:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
>  Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250: "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishi
> 
> Is Magueijo a Newtonian who teaches relativity just for money?
> 
> Judging from the following texts, Lee Smolin is a Newtonian as well:
> 
> http://www.fqxi.org/community/articles/display/148
> 
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/jun/10/time-reborn-farewell-reality-review
>  "And by making the clock's tick relative - what happens simultaneously for one observer might seem sequential to another - Einstein's theory of special relativity not only destroyed any notion of absolute time but made time equivalent to a dimension in space: the future is already out there waiting for us; we just can't see it until we get there. This view is a logical and metaphysical dead end, says Smolin."
> 
> http://www.bookdepository.com/Time-Reborn-Professor-Physics-Lee-Smolin/9780547511726
>  "Was Einstein wrong? At least in his understanding of time, Smolin argues, the great theorist of relativity was dead wrong. What is worse, by firmly enshrining his error in scientific orthodoxy, Einstein trapped his successors in insoluble dilemmas..."
> 
> Pentcho Valev


Einsteinians was a disguised Newtonian (and a Newtonian critic). 

If you look at Einsten's timeline..
you will find that
einstein lack the
knowledge of physics
so he learned...
Newtonian.

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Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 09:20 -0700
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 10:25 -0700
    Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 12:44 -0700
      Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-30 22:01 +0200
        Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 23:53 -0700
      Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? "Dr. Bob John" <drbobjohn@hotmail.org> - 2016-06-30 20:28 +0000
        Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 15:05 -0700
      Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-06-30 23:19 +0200
        Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? "Dr. Bob John" <drbobjohn@hotmail.org> - 2016-06-30 21:30 +0000
          Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-06-30 23:51 +0200
        Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 15:08 -0700
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 12:43 -0700
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? "Dr. Bob John" <drbobjohn@hotmail.org> - 2016-06-30 20:24 +0000
    Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-01 11:09 +0200
      Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 10:49 -0700
        Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-02 06:53 +0200
          Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-05 07:54 +0200
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 13:39 -0700
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 16:16 -0700
  Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 21:29 +0800
    Re: Are Einsteinians Disguised Newtonians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-07-01 22:06 +0200

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