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Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You

From Moses <moses@7sinai.74>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, alt.religion.christian
Subject Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You
Date 2016-03-02 09:03 -0500
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Gordon wrote:

> Moses wrote:

> >Olrik wrote:

> >>  Moses a écrit :

> >> > we WANT you to have your own evidence of God, many people already have this evidence.
> >> >
> >> > with me so far?

> >> If there was any "god", it would be a non-issue, like air or gravity.

> >that's not necessarily true,

> >God is a conscious Being, not a spot on the wall.

> >if i was going to present my evidence to substantiate a particular "activated complex" in a reaction of certain
> >chemicals i would either have to assume that you had the prerequisites to understand what i say and how i explain
> >it, or, i would have to lead you by the hand and show you how this evidence is gathered and interpreted, and
> >then show you the substantiation for a particular case. i could talk until i was blue in the face about reaction
> >rates and activated complexes and rate laws and mixing methodologies but you'd have to go into the lab and actually
> >do some of this with your own grubby little paws or you would have nothing we could relate. i could even show you
> >pretty blue colored solutions and scrawl a bunch of chicken scratch symbology on the chalkboard and you would still
> >have nothing without a similar experience. it can -become- a "non-issue" but until you have the like experience,
> >it will remain an issue.

> My thinking on this is that God is a form of cosmic consciousness,
> comprised of something like quantum entanglements between sub-atomic
> particles throughout the multiverse. These entanglements function in a
> way that is similar to the synapses in our brain. The speed of light
> is not a restrictive matter in this type of entanglements. God's brain
> throughout the multiverse is aware of everything from the hair on our
> head to the vast complexity of the multiverse.

i don't think entanglement theory suggests that two electrons may be permanently spin-paired.
two electrons are spin-paired when they reside in a spin-paired energy state, like the various 
atomic and molecular orbitals described by the s p d and f secondary quantum numbers [l] and 
the magnetic quantum number, ml. you get the spin pairing [spin up and spin down] from the 
4th quantum number, the spin magnetic number, ms.

all i'm saying is, that all electrons are virtually identical and it is the energy states
in which they are found which differentiates them, and any particular electron is not restricted
to a particular permanent energy state or even a particular atom.

if you could color code electrons and all the green ones were in a blob of calcium metal
and one did the little photon experiment and then, took the calcium metal, and dropped it
in water and made calcium hydroxide and reacted that with all sorts of things, and then, 
gathered the calcium back up,  and electrically reverted back to calcium metal, all the 
green electrons would be elseware amongst the water and carbon and whatever else you reacted
it with totally randomly spin paired and the electrons in the recouped calcium metal would 
be a randon assortment of 'white' electrons with no peculiar permanent 'entanglements'

entanglement theories do not substantiate a claim that two electrons in disparate galaxies may be spin-paired.

too bad you can't color code electrons to tell them apart... but i'm pretty sure you could convince yourself
 that the color coding would randomize. that "entanglement" is not "permanent" at least in the valence .

i mean, all that Shroedinger equations are only solved exactly for the hydrogen atom
two particles, one [+] charged one [-] charged and you get all these hydrogen-like atomic orbitals.
the main thing i get from entanglement is that chemical bonding is possible even though, it's 
two [-] charged particles that form the bond.

those two negatively charged particles become entangled, and a chemical bond 
is formed. hydrogen-like quantum calculations aren't about the hydrogen molecule.
once you start talking about molecules, you're beyond the exact calculations, 
but something about the calculations predict two states and the electron is 
bound to the nucleus but two electrons can also form a chemical bond
and this requires spin state complementarity. that a hydrogen molecule should 
form at all is sort of remarkable but it does, even without a mathematical 
model to explain why...

i mean, it's like, if you excite the electron pair in the valence portion of the molecule

and drive them up to the  10000 d hydrogen-like atomic orbital 
they would, essentialy, be driven apart by a large distance
but, they are still 'entangled' with the system 
as described by the ground state.

like, the actinides are in the 7-f hydrogen-like orbital state and that's in the nanometer 
Angstrom area one may want to do the actual calculation on teh 'size' of the 10000 d orbitals
or 100000 s orbitals to make it easier, you could, presumable, with enough juice drive the 
valence electrons to that state, or further and that state would predict a volume quite 
removed from the nucleus but, shut off the juice, and they immediately return to the ground state.
they don't just fly off into outer space because they have been shoved far away from the nucleus.
albeit, some other state could capture them...maybe

anyway, to some people, it's the detection of individual spin states that is a fascination and, 
apparently, if they're spin paired near the nucleus in the ground state they remain spin paired in the excited state
that's the 'entanglement' and not some sort of mysterious bond between electrons in disparate galaxies.

if you had a tank of hydrogen gas, and parcelled out the entire cannister into a million little cannisters
measuring one blob in one cannister wouldn't reveal anything about any of the other canisters.
because, though all that gas is in the same tank, the individual molecules  aren't entangled

the 'data' isn't saying that a peculiar electron on earth has this oddly spin paired counterpart 
permanently conjoined that is 60 light years away in another galaxy.


> Heaven is "above" us in terms of spatial dimensions, not above us in
> terms of the earth's gravitational field.  Gordon

now all you have to do is design a mechanical device that can detect this phenomenon.
i would suggest that such a mechanical device is already present, and that this 
mechanical device is the human brain. a marvel of design.






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                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:45 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:45 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 00:38 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 00:37 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2016-03-03 03:20 +0100
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 21:12 -0500
              Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2016-03-03 03:27 +0100
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 18:57 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 00:46 +0000
        Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 21:12 -0500
        Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-01 20:33 -0800
          Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 00:09 -0500
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:27 -0500
              Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 07:10 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 07:29 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 04:42 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-03 02:03 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:28 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 04:41 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-03 02:06 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 23:37 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-03-02 07:37 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 09:03 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-03-02 09:24 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 10:50 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 11:23 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 12:14 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 11:38 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 09:46 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 06:10 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-03-03 13:54 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 00:52 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 07:18 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 07:58 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2016-03-03 14:29 +0100
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-03 08:38 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 09:42 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 10:19 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:45 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:12 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2016-03-03 14:36 +0100
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:20 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:20 -0600
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 02:48 -0800
              Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Moses <moses@7sinai.74> - 2016-03-02 06:05 -0500
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 04:39 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 04:39 -0800
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:37 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:32 -0600
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 05:54 -0800
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 08:13 -0600
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:50 -0800
            Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2016-03-03 13:54 +0100
              Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 00:56 +0000
                Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:07 -0700
    Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 20:42 -0800
  Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Andy W <chordack@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:44 -0800
    Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:54 -0800
    Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-03-03 13:52 -0800
      Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Andy W <chordack@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 14:28 -0800
      Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2016-03-04 07:22 -0600
        Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You mr.hvac@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 05:58 -0800
          Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:57 -0800
  Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:35 -0800
    Re: Here's Some More Evidence For You Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:37 -0800

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