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Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C?

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C?
Date 2015-08-17 14:48 -0400
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On 08/17/2015 02:38 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
...
> And, even if the file _does_ have a fixed size at the time you asked the
> OS, it might have changed by the time you opened it--or between the time
> you start and finish reading it.
> 
> OTOH, people generally overestimate the importance of knowing the exact
> file size; just open the file and read until you reach the end, for
> whatever definition of "end" may apply to that file type and OS.

The single most common reason I would want to get a file size is so I
can figure out how it will fit in the place that I want to copy/move it
to. Particularly with very large files, I would prefer to find out
before starting the copy/move, rather than as a result of the copy/move
failing. And, for precisely that reason, if there was any danger of the
file getting modified without my knowledge during that process, I'd
prefer to lock the file to prevent it from being modified before I
determine the size, with the lock not being removed until after I'm done
with it. Locking is another feature provided by some operating systems,
but not by C itself.

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How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? fl <rxjwg98@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:28 -0700
  Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-12 23:52 +0100
    Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? fl <rxjwg98@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 16:13 -0700
      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-13 00:33 +0100
      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-13 00:06 +0000
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-08-13 20:50 +0000
          Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-17 13:38 -0500
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-17 14:48 -0400
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-18 11:10 +0100
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-18 15:01 +0100
      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? gordonb.8n5lc@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-08-14 02:33 -0500
        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-14 10:06 +0200
          Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-14 09:14 +0100
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-14 21:27 +0000
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 09:52 +0200
          Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-08-15 01:17 +0100
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 10:27 +0200
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-15 18:09 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 22:05 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:17 -0700
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 13:50 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-15 21:37 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 23:33 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-15 22:58 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-16 00:08 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-16 00:40 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-16 02:23 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:37 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-08-16 15:35 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:21 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 23:31 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-16 03:38 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 17:29 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 01:46 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 09:03 -0700
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-08-16 03:23 +0100
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-08-17 00:56 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-08-17 01:08 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-17 10:20 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 09:01 -0700
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-15 11:31 +0100
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 14:01 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-15 22:28 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:29 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 10:50 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 17:40 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:22 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 21:27 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 01:31 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 20:25 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 16:29 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 23:43 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 18:20 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:10 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-18 05:26 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-08-22 14:23 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-18 04:23 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 17:39 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2015-08-18 16:49 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 17:42 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-18 19:57 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:12 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-19 18:04 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 16:52 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-20 18:18 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-08-21 20:39 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 17:17 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-21 19:35 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:28 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-22 22:43 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 00:07 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:59 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 23:22 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 19:17 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-23 21:35 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:59 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-24 17:57 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-08-25 01:09 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 19:03 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-25 22:16 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 14:29 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-26 18:28 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-26 19:25 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-27 10:07 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-27 09:18 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-27 18:04 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-27 11:15 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-27 21:10 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-27 15:54 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-28 09:28 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-27 13:12 -0600
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-28 09:35 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 04:28 -0700
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:31 -0700
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-08-22 14:25 +0000
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 10:45 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 17:40 -0400
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 00:40 -0400
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        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-14 08:48 -0400
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      Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-12 19:44 -0600
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        Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-13 11:31 +0100
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          Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-13 08:49 -0700
            Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-13 17:45 +0100
              Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-14 11:11 +0100
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-14 11:34 +0100
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                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 09:51 +0200
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-15 12:36 -0700
                Re: How to read a data file whose size is unknown in C? jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-15 22:26 +0200
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