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Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups talk.politics.guns, sci.physics, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change
Date 2018-12-22 18:07 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 12/21/18 10:23 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/21/18 2:41 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/21/18 1:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hidden in the 133-page document agreed upon at the UN climate change
>>>>>>>>> talks was a compromise that many consider an infuriating distraction:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/16/health/sutter-cop24-climate-talks/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 30 years of "the sky is falling" and no massive crop failures, no flooded
>>>>>>>> cities, and no piles of bodies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are seeing, roughly, the predicted outcomes. Now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you expect more, as you describe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't expect more than what we are actually seeing, i.e. little
>>>>>> to nothing and certainly nothing catastrophic.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fires and increased storms and loss of habitats and species is very
>>>>> significant, I think. What makes you think those things are "little to
>>>>> nothing"?
>>>>
>>>> None of which is siginificantly different from what has been happening
>>>> for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
>>>
>>> I would love to see evidence of that claim.
>> 
>> A trivial look up.
> 
> Then it should be easy for you to do. Show that the current reduction in 
> species is similar to what has been happening for "hundreds, if not 
> thousands, of years".
> 
> Keep in mind what you say is "trivial" to find is contrary to the evidence.

Yeah, sure.

You could just kill yourself now and avoid the apocalypse.

> http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/1/5/e1400253.full
> 
>>>>>> However some people have been rending their shirts and crying the end
>>>>>> is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point for about 30 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people? But you are not talking about the common scientific view?
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about the people who have been rending their shirts and
>>>> crying the end is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point as
>>>> they have been doing for about 30 years now.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>> So not the scientists researching climate. Fair enough.
>>   
>> I never said anything about "scientists researching climate", why do
>> you keep bringing it up?
> 
> You keep talking about people speaking of climate. Who do you mean? 
> Seems not the scientists nor those who reference them, at least in 
> general... so who?
> 
>> I'm talking about the people who have been rending their shirts and
>> crying the end is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point as
>> they have been doing for about 30 years now.
> 
> But you cannot say who... other than to note you do not mean the 
> scientists of every single scientific organization that has a position 
> on climate change. Not them. Nor those who base their views on the 
> findings of such scientists. But... someone.

If you want names, for starters there is kensi and sam wormely.

You figure out the rest.

> 
> What?
> 
> 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-21 08:55 -0500
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 07:08 -0700
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-21 06:16 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-21 14:27 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:16 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 10:44 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:08 -0800
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 12:13 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 12:35 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 12:40 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 12:45 -0700
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 13:32 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:40 -0700
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 12:12 -0700
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 20:29 +0000
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 13:35 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-21 14:52 -0600
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:05 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 21:41 +0000
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 17:49 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 01:29 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 02:29 +0000
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:23 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 22:45 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 22:12 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:07 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 12:43 -0600
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                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:28 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 02:37 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 19:47 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 23:20 -0600
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:36 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:51 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 05:21 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 08:55 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 19:16 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-12-23 20:14 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-23 22:30 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 15:40 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 20:29 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-24 06:13 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-24 11:05 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-24 11:28 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 09:32 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-24 12:17 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 09:37 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:11 -0800
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:26 -0700
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-21 18:02 -0500
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-21 23:35 +0000
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-21 18:47 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-21 23:51 +0000
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 17:20 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:13 -0500
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:28 +0000
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 23:56 +0000
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:14 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 18:34 -0800
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:26 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-22 02:58 -0500
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 00:32 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 03:21 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:09 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:23 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:21 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 17:20 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:12 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 19:05 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:28 +0000
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 21:56 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-22 10:56 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 09:02 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 09:10 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-22 08:22 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 08:49 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-22 12:39 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:10 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:23 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:57 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 12:16 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:25 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:29 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:24 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:58 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 19:01 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 02:39 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 08:55 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 19:17 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 20:29 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-24 06:14 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-24 10:44 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 03:13 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 23:51 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 11:35 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 12:49 -0600
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:30 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 15:38 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:14 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 15:04 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:27 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-23 04:43 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 05:10 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-22 11:06 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 19:04 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:10 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:47 -0500
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            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:41 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:57 -0800
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