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Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups talk.politics.guns, sci.physics, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change
Date 2018-12-22 05:23 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/21/18 2:41 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/21/18 1:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hidden in the 133-page document agreed upon at the UN climate change
>>>>>>> talks was a compromise that many consider an infuriating distraction:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/16/health/sutter-cop24-climate-talks/index.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 30 years of "the sky is falling" and no massive crop failures, no flooded
>>>>>> cities, and no piles of bodies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are seeing, roughly, the predicted outcomes. Now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why would you expect more, as you describe?
>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't expect more than what we are actually seeing, i.e. little
>>>> to nothing and certainly nothing catastrophic.
>>> 
>>> The fires and increased storms and loss of habitats and species is very 
>>> significant, I think. What makes you think those things are "little to 
>>> nothing"?
>> 
>> None of which is siginificantly different from what has been happening
>> for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
> 
> I would love to see evidence of that claim. 

A trivial look up.

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> However some people have been rending their shirts and crying the end
>>>> is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point for about 30 years.
>>> 
>>> Some people? But you are not talking about the common scientific view?
>> 
>> I'm talking about the people who have been rending their shirts and
>> crying the end is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point as
>> they have been doing for about 30 years now.
>>  
>> 
> So not the scientists researching climate. Fair enough. 
 
I never said anything about "scientists researching climate", why do
you keep bringing it up? 

I'm talking about the people who have been rending their shirts and
crying the end is nigh as they wail about the coming tipping point as
they have been doing for about 30 years now.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-21 08:55 -0500
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 07:08 -0700
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-21 06:16 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-21 14:27 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:16 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 10:44 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:08 -0800
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 12:13 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 12:35 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 12:40 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 12:45 -0700
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 13:32 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:40 -0700
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 12:12 -0700
  Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 20:29 +0000
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 13:35 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-21 14:52 -0600
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 13:05 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 21:41 +0000
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 17:49 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 01:29 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 02:29 +0000
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:23 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-21 22:45 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 22:12 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:07 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 12:43 -0600
                15 MINUTES TO OXY % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:48 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:28 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 02:37 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 19:47 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 23:20 -0600
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:36 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:51 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 05:21 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 08:55 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 19:16 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-12-23 20:14 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-23 22:30 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 15:40 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 20:29 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-24 06:13 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-24 11:05 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-24 11:28 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 09:32 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-24 12:17 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 09:37 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:11 -0800
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:26 -0700
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-21 18:02 -0500
    Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-21 23:35 +0000
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-21 18:47 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-21 23:51 +0000
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 17:20 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:13 -0500
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:28 +0000
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-21 23:56 +0000
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:14 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 18:34 -0800
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:26 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-22 02:58 -0500
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 00:32 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 03:21 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:09 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:23 -0700
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:21 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-21 17:20 -0700
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-12-21 20:12 -0500
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 19:05 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 05:28 +0000
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 21:56 -0800
        Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-22 10:56 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 09:02 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 09:10 -0700
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-22 08:22 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 08:49 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-22 12:39 -0500
          Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:10 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:23 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:57 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 12:16 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:25 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:29 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:24 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 18:58 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 19:01 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 02:39 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 08:55 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-23 19:17 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 20:29 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-24 06:14 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-24 10:44 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 03:13 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 23:51 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 11:35 -0700
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-22 12:49 -0600
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:30 +0000
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 15:38 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:14 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 15:04 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-22 18:27 -0700
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-23 04:43 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 05:10 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-12-22 11:06 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-22 19:04 +0000
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:10 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:47 -0500
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 19:30 -0800
              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-12-22 23:50 -0500
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-12-22 21:00 -0800
                Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 21:20 -0800
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              Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-23 11:04 -0500
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            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:41 -0800
            Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:57 -0800
      Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change bigdog <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-22 11:19 -0800
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