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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array |
| Date | 2012-09-05 18:29 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <5047D22F.3090904@verizon.net> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <k25rv3$e1$10@dont-email.me> <50467585.7090105@verizon.net> <k28dl4$irb$5@dont-email.me> <5047C2B8.2040609@verizon.net> <k28g9n$fra$6@dont-email.me> |
On 09/05/2012 05:30 PM, army1987 wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:23:04 -0400, James Kuyper wrote:
>
>> In
>> particular, your "WTF?" left me wondering whether you thought the
>> optimization was invalid.
>
> I don't. But 1) I was surprised that strspn() was optimized away, and 2)
> I seemed to remember seeing a compiler optimizing away printf() some time
> ago, so I expected that if a compiler would do the former it would do the
> latter too.
What this particular format string causes printf() to do is relatively
simple. The whole thing could have been optimized all the way down to
fputs("3", stdout). However, in general printf() is far more complicated
than strspn(), which might explain why the strspn() call got evaluated
at compile time, while the printf() call did not.
In particular, printf()'s behavior depends upon the current locale,
while strspn()'s does not. In this simple program, it's easy to confirm
that there's no possibility of setlocale() being called. However, the
need to check for that possibility might have discouraged any attempt to
pre-evaluate the printf() call.
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Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> - 2012-09-04 19:14 +0200
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-04 14:08 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 09:56 +0200
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-05 07:33 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 23:39 +0200
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-05 18:11 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-05 07:17 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-04 19:18 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 18:41 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-04 20:22 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-04 17:07 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-04 17:25 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-04 18:24 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 17:29 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array army1987 <army1987@ask-for-it.invalid> - 2012-09-04 21:26 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array army1987 <army1987@ask-for-it.invalid> - 2012-09-04 21:31 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-04 17:41 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array army1987 <army1987@ask-for-it.invalid> - 2012-09-05 20:45 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-05 17:23 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array army1987 <army1987@ask-for-it.invalid> - 2012-09-05 21:30 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:04 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-05 18:17 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-09-05 18:29 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 21:44 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 21:39 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-04 22:58 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-09-04 22:12 +0000
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2012-09-04 18:55 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-04 16:51 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-04 20:58 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 10:04 +0200
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 04:47 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-07 14:04 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Casey Carter <casey_at_carter_dot_net@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-07 16:40 -0500
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 19:54 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-08 14:15 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-09-17 12:09 -0400
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 04:53 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-07 13:07 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-09-07 14:08 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 19:41 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-09-04 20:26 +0100
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2012-09-04 14:14 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 04:41 -0700
Re: Limitations and workarounds to expressions defining size of an array army1987 <army1987@ask-for-it.invalid> - 2012-09-07 13:32 +0000
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