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Re: PADS schematic into Word doc

Subject Re: PADS schematic into Word doc
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
References (11 earlier) <oe65rb$fdl$1@dont-email.me> <9lbdgc9ivhhedcd5563due304tgqf3cio4@4ax.com> <7ccdgc96a96psdd5can6rrrils23pc5odj@4ax.com> <8e1b26ea-d588-e158-caf6-83a3d1977fd6@electrooptical.net> <oe7o7r$mhk$1@dont-email.me>
From Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date 2017-05-01 15:46 -0400
Message-ID <4eudnb_cGsIPDZrEnZ2dnUU7-K-dnZ2d@supernews.com> (permalink)

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On 05/01/2017 12:40 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 5/1/2017 8:53 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 05/01/2017 12:16 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:43:45 -0700, John Larkin
>>> <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My name is on the title page of the manuals that I write, so that's no
>>>> secret. "John's Computer" neither
>>>
>>> These might help:
>>>
>>> "Remove hidden data and personal information from Office documents"
>>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Remove-hidden-data-and-personal-information-from-Office-documents-c2499d69-413c-469b-ace3-cf7e31a85953>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Using the Document Inspector"
>>> <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/ff862071.aspx>
>>>
>>> "Metadata in MS Office"
>>> <https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/metadata_in_ms.html>
>>>
>>> Much of this kind of hidden metadata can be exposed using various
>>> readers:
>>> <http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Document_Metadata_Extraction>
>>> <https://www.meridiandiscovery.com/articles/word-last-10-authors-metadata-computer-forensics/>
>>>
>>> and cleaners:
>>> <http://www.brightfort.com/docscrubber.html>
>>
>> Not an issue in LaTeX!
> 
> Simply because you (nor the previous document's author) didn't opt
> to include any macros to embed "invisible" information in your file(s).
> By way of example(s):
> 
> % This is the crappiest piece of hardware we've ever produced!
> 
> OR
> 
> % sdf[dsfg[psrpos]dlvsl;jtpeoirt'lesmk ;vjsdv
> (same as above, but encoded in a manner that isn't explicitly obvious)
> 
> OR
> 
> \end{document}
> This was prepared by MagicGloves v1.234 licensed to LKFOIUSFJHS#6%$#
> 
> OR
> 
> \newcommand{\comment}[1]{}
> ....
> \comment{This customer paid us lots of extra money for a feature
> that is already present in the standard product.  We'll make a big
> deal about the feature, here, in THIS copy of the manual, to make
> him think he really got his money worth!}
> 
> OR
> 
> \usepackage{comment}
> ....
> \begin{comment}
>  This feature doesn't really work as advertised; but, the bozos in
>  Marketing wanted it included
> \end{comment}
> 
> OR
> 
> (deliberately exploiting the comment feature)
> 
> \usepackage[final]{fixme}
> \fxsetup{layout=footnote, marginclue}
> ....
> \fxnote{We really need to redesign the front end to tamp down the
> noise -- but, no time to do it in this version!}
> 
> OR
> 
> \iffalse
>   Kilroy was here -- but found the place to be pathetic and left!
> \fi
> 
> OR
> 
> ....
> 
> Given that others can originate documents, unless you want to reverse
> engineer *all* of their content, you can never be sure they (or the tool
> preparing the LaTeX) haven't carefully embedded information in the document
> in ways that you're not ambitious enough to uncover.  That becomes MORE of
> a problem as documents are (dynamically) "synthesized" from their PDL's
> 
> Obfuscated LaTeX contest??  :>
> 
> \let~\catcode~`x13~`q~`x~`z~`q~`H~`q~`B~`H~`j0~`jA009
> jlet~jlet~Hjpar ~Bjmscount~~jdef~x{q bottlez of beer}
> ~jw{x on the wall}~jt{jadvanceAB-1ATake one down Aand
> pass it around,H}B99~ji{jifnumB}~q{ji=0Nojelsejnumber
> Bjfi}~z{ji>1sjfiA }jloop jifnumB>0 jw, x,Hjtjw.jvskip
> 8ptplus1ptjrepeat Time to buy some more beerjdotsjend

1. People who are deliberately stupid like that deserve what they get.
With LaTeX you have to shoot yourself in the foot deliberately, whereas
Office does it for you.  Nice automation feature. :(

2. Stuff in an \iffalse block doesn't appear anywhere in the output.

3. You don't have to reverse engineer anything.  If nobody is saying
anything stupid in the LaTeX source, nothing stupid winds up in the PDF.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

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PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-04-28 14:52 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-04-28 16:55 -0500
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-04-28 23:52 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-04-28 23:56 +0200
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-04-28 15:10 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-28 15:35 -0700
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-04-28 16:26 -0700
          Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-28 17:18 -0700
          Re: PADS schematic into Word doc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-02 12:27 +0200
            Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-02 06:53 -0700
              Re: PADS schematic into Word doc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-02 16:34 +0200
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-02 08:12 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-03 12:24 +0200
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-03 22:02 +1000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-03 08:01 +1000
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-04-29 00:54 +0200
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-28 15:19 -0700
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-04-28 16:34 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-28 16:37 -0700
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-04-29 06:44 -0500
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 06:47 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc JM <dontreplytothis173@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 23:43 +0100
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-28 16:41 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-04-29 09:18 +1000
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-04-28 16:30 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-04-29 09:51 +1000
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 21:14 -0400
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 21:27 -0400
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-04-29 21:33 +0000
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 03:11 -0400
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-04-28 22:18 -0400
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-28 19:28 -0700
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-04-29 06:17 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-04-29 10:09 -0400
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 07:27 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-29 08:05 -0700
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 11:17 -0400
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 12:13 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc krw@notreal.com - 2017-04-28 23:10 -0400
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-04-29 06:45 -0500
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Dimitrij Klingbeil <nospam@no-address.com> - 2017-04-29 16:48 +0200
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 08:26 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-04-29 10:31 -0400
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-29 08:12 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-04-29 13:28 -0400
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 14:56 -0400
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-29 10:47 -0700
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 11:24 -0700
          Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-29 12:01 -0700
            Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 12:21 -0700
              Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-04-29 12:29 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 13:01 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-04-30 09:53 -0500
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 12:15 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 12:16 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-04-30 14:42 -0500
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 13:25 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 13:25 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 13:51 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 15:32 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:20 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 20:43 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:11 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-04-30 21:16 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 11:53 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 09:40 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-01 11:31 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 12:25 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 15:46 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 12:55 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 16:10 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-01 11:14 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 15:48 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-01 11:28 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 15:59 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-01 13:25 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-01 16:31 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:49 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 19:22 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-01 20:16 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-05-02 07:35 -0500
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-02 20:17 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-01 21:31 -0400
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 23:39 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-02 11:35 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-03 08:09 +1000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-04-30 21:41 +0000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 15:26 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-05-01 04:17 +0000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 10:05 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-01 11:38 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-05-04 10:18 +0000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-04 07:19 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-05-04 17:17 +0000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-05-11 05:39 +0000
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-11 09:10 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-04-30 15:12 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-05-01 00:08 -0500
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 09:11 -0700
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-05-01 17:48 -0500
                Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-01 18:30 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-04-29 20:56 +0100
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-29 12:51 -0700
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-29 13:36 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:09 -0700
      Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-04-30 08:33 -0400
        Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 07:25 -0700
          Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-04-30 15:48 -0400
            Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 13:13 -0700
              Re: PADS schematic into Word doc George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-01 06:52 -0700
  Re: PADS schematic into Word doc Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-04-30 01:57 -0800
    Re: PADS schematic into Word doc John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-04-30 07:29 -0700

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