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Re: Mercury's Precession Again

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2016-05-19 11:25 -0700
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Subject Re: Mercury's Precession Again
From Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>

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On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 8:41:04 AM UTC-5, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 11:22:45 AM UTC-5, al...@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu środa, 18 maja 2016 02:59:30 UTC+2 użytkownik Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog napisał:
> 
> > > True, Newton found that he could account for only half of the Moon's motion of 
> > > the apsides. The Moon is attracted to both the Earth and the Sun, so accounting
> > > for its motions involves solving a difficult three-body problem that even Newton
> > > could not work out.
> > > 
> > > During the 18th century, the problem of solving the Moon's motion was a crucial
> > > one. Accurate navigation depended on developing a reliable means of determining
> > > longitude, and with accurate chronometers still well in the future, astronomical
> > > means of determining longitude were considered the only immediately feasible
> > > option for meeting the needs of the nautical community. Hence the need to 
> > > create accurate lunar tables.
> > > 
> > > a long and contentious dispute ran on between Alexis Clairaut, Leonhard Euler, 
> > > and Jean le Rond d'Alembert concerning the correct explanation of the Moon's 
> > > motion. Clairaut actually suggested that perhaps Newton's laws needed to be 
> > > modified, and Euler did not disagree.
> > > 
> > > The solution to the problem ultimately rested on the discovery that some 
> > > previously neglected higher-order perturbative terms were actually important. 
> > > Clairaut was first to come to this realization, retracting his previous 
> > > suggestions that perhaps Newton's laws were not universal, but Euler and 
> > > d'Alembert also had certain claims to priority. Newton's laws were vindicated. 
> > > Correctly applied, they fully explained the motions of the Moon. There was no 
> > > need to modify them.
> > 
> > Your enthusiasm is very fantastic!
> > So, then show me the explanation/derivation of the 3 degrees of precession
> > for the moon apse, instead of 1.5, what Newton derived.
> > 
> > And be aware: in this simple exercise is hidden a big hack, trap! :)
> 
> My 2D simulation overestimates the precession by about 0.5 degree per 
> anomalistic month, which is not surprising given that it is 2D and the fact 
> that I used various other simplifications, such as placing the Earth/Moon 
> barycenter in circular orbit around the Sun, etc.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8XIf0XcrpOcYUdsa2pXZkY5bkE
> 
> The basic take-home lesson is that Newtonian mechanics works. You don't need
> a modified law of gravity to get double Newton's figure.
> 
> So what is the trap?

I uploaded a new version with a corrected barycenter-Moon distance, and the result is a much better match with the observed value of apsides advance, only about 0.15 degrees/orbit too high.

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Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 02:22 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Cully When <cullywhen@invalid.net> - 2016-04-27 16:46 +0000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 17:15 +0000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:34 -0700
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:43 -0500
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:17 -0500
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-28 07:56 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 20:26 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:39 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:55 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 23:55 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:05 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:34 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:45 -0700
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      Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-28 14:03 +0200
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 10:20 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 15:40 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 14:39 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:06 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 20:37 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-30 05:28 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-30 08:59 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:46 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 10:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:51 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 05:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 03:35 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 14:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:58 +1000
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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 03:45 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-01 12:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:12 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 09:54 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 19:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-03 03:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:41 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:00 +1000
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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 19:13 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 12:01 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 21:34 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 08:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 13:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:16 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 04:39 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-16 10:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 21:10 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 14:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 04:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 11:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 14:44 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 16:58 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 18:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 18:28 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 20:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-20 11:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 14:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 23:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 11:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-15 23:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:15 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-16 00:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:46 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:52 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:14 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 16:00 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 12:19 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 09:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 03:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:43 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 10:16 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:06 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:14 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:19 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 10:28 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-02 09:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-05 13:27 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 22:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 09:31 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-08 06:41 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 14:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 03:42 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 19:44 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 05:21 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 08:00 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-07 15:42 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:05 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-09 15:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-10 09:20 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-11 07:00 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:16 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:25 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:56 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:19 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:51 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:47 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:15 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 20:01 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 02:50 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:13 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 19:48 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:53 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:41 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:16 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:43 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-01 21:52 +0000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-30 21:12 +0200
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:11 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-05-01 09:54 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:57 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:39 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:49 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:02 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:01 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:03 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:46 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-17 02:47 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 17:35 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:59 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:56 -0500
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:08 +1000
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:19 -0500
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:26 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:09 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:56 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 22:55 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:54 -0500
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 19:17 +0200
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:08 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:28 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:51 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:04 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:20 +1000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-04-28 17:30 -0400
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 14:44 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-03 07:05 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 18:26 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:43 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:17 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 16:46 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-13 07:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 12:40 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 11:01 -0700

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