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Re: Einstein and Big Ben

Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Date	2023-06-17 19:07 -0700
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Subject	Re: Einstein and Big Ben
From	patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>

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On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-7, Trevor Lange wrote:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 11:11:17 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: 
> > At the completion of one revolution of the big hand on my wristwatch,
> > how many revolutions of the big hand on the [approaching] clock do I observe 
> > with the unaided eye? 
> 
> As explained to you multiple times before, 3.732. What part of 3.732 don't you understand? 
> 
> And why have you abandoned your effort to learn what relativistic time dilation means? Lost interest? Never really were interested? Only when you understand that each clock in each row runs slow in terms of the clocks in the other row, and WHY that is true, as explained above, will you understand relativistic time dilation.

Legion,

Before I render my verdict in Einstein v. Big Ben, are there any final arguments you wish to make as to the illegitimacy of the paradox; either logical, scientific or relativistic?

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Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 08:14 -0700
  Re: Einstein and Big Ben The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 08:23 -0700
    Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 09:35 -0700
  Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 16:17 -0700
    Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 17:57 -0700
      Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 19:08 -0700
        Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 22:45 -0700
          Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 23:01 -0700
          Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 01:21 -0700
            Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2023-06-16 15:18 +0200
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 06:24 -0700
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 07:54 -0700
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-16 17:15 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 10:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-16 20:22 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 17:39 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-17 09:27 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-17 17:38 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 13:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 16:32 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 16:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 16:50 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 17:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 18:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 21:57 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 03:30 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 06:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 08:02 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 10:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:47 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 11:48 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 12:09 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 18:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 19:35 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-21 09:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 18:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 10:25 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 16:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 17:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 19:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 21:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 07:57 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:37 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 17:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 18:36 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 12:17 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 14:23 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 14:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 18:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-25 03:10 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 20:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 20:53 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 21:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 21:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 22:13 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 22:30 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 22:53 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 23:55 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 23:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-25 00:18 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 00:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 00:30 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-25 00:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-25 00:54 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 10:55 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-25 16:05 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 02:29 -0700
                Re: Einsteine Miquel Niftrik <lile@iulmqnqu.ni> - 2023-06-26 13:47 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 06:56 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 07:20 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-26 14:02 -0400
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 11:12 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-26 15:33 -0400
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 11:36 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 09:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 11:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:11 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 12:17 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 16:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 18:12 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 18:37 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 18:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 19:22 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 19:30 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 19:48 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 19:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 21:11 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 21:31 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 21:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 22:54 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 07:53 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 17:34 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-27 16:19 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 09:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 18:42 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 09:54 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 19:05 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:07 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 12:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:00 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 13:03 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 22:07 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 13:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 22:44 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-27 21:38 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 23:39 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-27 21:51 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-27 23:54 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 16:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 17:49 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 20:43 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 20:55 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 21:00 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 01:10 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 01:26 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 06:38 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 07:55 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 08:10 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 08:58 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 08:14 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 09:21 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 09:50 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 09:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 10:32 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 10:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:10 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 11:16 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 11:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 20:57 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 16:05 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 17:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-28 19:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 22:57 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 12:01 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-28 14:34 -0400
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Braxton Ramakers <ssor@ekrattrt.mr> - 2023-06-28 21:31 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Woodrow Aalst <soas@ooaowlat.ow> - 2023-06-28 21:41 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-28 22:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-27 13:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 09:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-22 20:48 -0500
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 19:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-23 05:19 -0500
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 11:13 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 02:22 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-06-25 07:25 +0200
            Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 12:13 -0700
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 13:01 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 17:22 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 18:17 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 19:02 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 22:15 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-17 09:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 10:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-17 11:11 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 12:12 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-17 19:07 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 11:13 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 12:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 12:20 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-19 14:40 -0500
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 16:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-19 19:34 -0500
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 23:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-20 23:31 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 19:58 -0700
        Re: Einstein and Big Ben The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 23:26 -0700

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