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Re: Einstein and Big Ben

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein and Big Ben
Date 2023-06-15 23:26 -0700
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patdolan wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 5:57:35 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:17:27 PM UTC-7, Trevor Lange wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 11:48:32 AM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
> > > > Consider a distant observer traveling at .867 c ( γ=2 ) relative to the solar system
> > > > along the line that is collinear with the sun's axis of rotation. As the clockwork solar
> > > > system spins beneath him, the distant observer peers through his powerful telescope
> > > > at Big Ben in London. After taking relativistic doppler into account, the distant observer
> > > > measures Big Ben's little hand to make one revolution for every two revolutions of his
> > > > own wristwatch's little hand, in accordance with special relativity.
> > >
> > > Again, that's false. After compensating his observations by the relativistic Doppler factor, the distant person finds that the rate is exactly equal to the rate of his own clock. This was explained to you before.
> > This is interesting comment of your, Legion. Please explain to this forum the concept and consequences of relativistic time dilation.
> > >
> More to the point, Legion my boy, is Einsteinian time dilation detectable?  


Einstein himself doesn't believe in 'time dilation'.


'time dilation' is just an idea....just a thought.  All in the mind.


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Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 08:14 -0700
  Re: Einstein and Big Ben The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 08:23 -0700
    Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 09:35 -0700
  Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 16:17 -0700
    Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 17:57 -0700
      Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-15 19:08 -0700
        Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 22:45 -0700
          Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 23:01 -0700
          Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 01:21 -0700
            Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2023-06-16 15:18 +0200
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 06:24 -0700
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 07:54 -0700
              Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-16 17:15 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 10:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-16 20:22 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 17:39 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-17 09:27 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2023-06-17 17:38 +0000
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 13:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 16:32 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 16:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 16:50 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-19 17:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 18:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 21:57 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 03:30 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 06:52 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 08:02 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 10:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:47 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 11:48 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 12:09 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 18:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-20 19:35 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-21 09:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 18:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 10:25 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 16:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 17:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 19:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 21:29 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 07:57 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 16:37 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 17:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 18:36 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 12:17 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 14:23 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 14:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 18:06 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-25 03:10 +0200
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 20:40 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 21:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 21:40 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 22:13 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 22:30 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 23:55 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-25 00:18 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 10:55 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 07:20 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 11:46 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 12:11 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 12:17 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 16:24 -0700
                Re: Einstein and Big Ben patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-26 18:12 -0700
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                Re: Einstein and Big Ben Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 19:30 -0700
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