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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories |
| Date | 2015-10-08 22:45 +0200 |
| Organization | PointedEars Software (PES) |
| Message-ID | <4368209.GPKBEtnK0j@PointedEars.de> (permalink) |
| References | <li6d1b539jib9ikkhlcv2ttgcp5ocl2e4r@4ax.com> <mv6cp0$jjg$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
Odd Bodkin wrote: > In general relativity, motion is inertial and worldlines are locally > straight. Hmmm. I think it is only safe to say that in GR _spacetime_ is locally _flat_. > "Motion in spacetime" is an oxymoron. In light of current events, one cannot resist to exclaim: “You’re just not thinking fourth-dimensionally!” ;-) Motion is generally characterized by a change of coordinates in a suitable frame of reference. The trivial motion in spacetime, where there are four coordinates, three spatial and one temporal, is to do nothing, thereby following along a time- like world line of maximum proper time, a geodesic: Then your 3 spatial coordinates in spacetime, x₁, x₂, and x₃ – your (3-)position – in a suitable frame of reference (e.g., the surface of Terra on which you are standing/sitting/lying), do not change, but your one other, temporal coordinate t changes continuously (which you can observe by looking at a working, co-moving watch/clock, and if you wait a really long time, by observing your hair and nails growing, and yourself aging). (The proper time interval for uniform motion in spacetime is ∆τ = √((∆t²) – (∆x_i)²∕c²). As a result of not moving spatially, ∆x_i = 0, so that the proper time interval between arbitrary events on that curve is maximal. [Using Landau/Lifshitz signature convention, and Einstein summation convention.]) See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-velocity> (describes the rate of change of four-position, i.e. motion, in spacetime); <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_line#Usage_in_physics> pp. (describes the [two] possibilities for motion in spacetime). Also, STFW for peer-reviewed papers and physics books on motion in different kinds of space(-)time, such as <http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jmp/56/3/10.1063/1.4913882> and <https://books.google.com/books?id=DCLUBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&dq=motion+%22in+spacetime%22&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0CDQQ6wEwA2oVChMInrXiss2zyAIViMcUCh0jHwbQ#v=onepage&q=motion%20%22in%20spacetime%22&f=false> PointedEars -- Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet? A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front I find myself very attracted to you. (from: WolframAlpha)
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The Necessity Alternate Theories kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-08 13:01 -0400
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:09 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0500
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-08 22:45 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-08 22:58 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:56 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-09 06:39 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-09 10:59 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-09 20:29 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-09 18:44 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 09:40 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 12:08 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 05:25 -0700
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 12:37 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-10 14:54 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 06:02 -0700
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 17:49 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 16:08 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 18:13 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 16:16 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 19:08 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 18:02 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 20:17 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 18:37 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-10 20:54 +0200
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 19:00 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 16:40 -0400
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 15:31 -0700
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-09 02:42 -0400
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:44 +0000
Re: The Necessity Alternate Theories kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-09 08:00 -0400
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