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Re: Invitations (Was: How to div only once to get remainder and quotient?)

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On Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:04:52 UTC+3, Kenny McCormack  wrote:
> In article <0218e44f-21c7-4f1e-8c25-cbba933fba8d@googlegroups.com>,
> Öö Tiib  <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote the obvious and superficial comment thusly:
> ...
> >Posting argumentative opinions and ideas in Usenet is active
> >invitation for responses in direct sense. People who do not
> >want discussion of their ideas and opinions do not post those
> >in Usenet.
> 
> Yeah, that's the obvious comment to make, but the reality is a little deeper.
> 
> See, the thing is - it used to be that if you wanted to enter into a
> private conversation between yourself and one other person, you would "take
> it to email".  That was an integral part of the Usenet culture.  However, a
> decade or so ago, a**holes starting spamming Usenet, and the result is that
> email was destroyed.

There are several ways to bypass that. The ways can be are less
convenient than to press reply privately button indeed. OTOH that is
inadequate complaint in technical forum that wasn't for housewives
at first place.

> Very few people now post to Usenet with valid email
> addresses (I still do, but I'm old school), so, effectively, you can't use
> that avenue anymore.  The result is that you now have to post to the public
> board stuff which really belongs in private email.

In general it is interesting plague. My Usenet e-mail address does not
really work indeed since of spam and too rare occasions of anything of
substance I do look into that inbox maybe few times in a year
and can likely miss whatever in it was important anyway.
My work e-mail is better since that I read several times per week but
even there are issues that spam filters sometimes filter too lot 
or not enough. Same happens with others.
So lot of personal communications have switched to instant messaging
style and people even announce it over IM that they sent mail of some
importance.

> There are many
> sociological effects of this - I will not bore you with the details at this
> time, but they are available upon request - but the real takeaway is that
> people *should* respect the fact that they are not really invited to the
> party, even though it is being posted and carried out in public.  They
> don't do this (as we have seen upthread here), but they *should*.

Still telling that this is private conversation that takes place in
public technical forum is admitting that poster himself is 
inept and/or impolite.
People who want but can not find ways to converse privately are
inept and people who did not make any attempts anyway to find
more appropriate channels are impolite. 

> 
> Note also that the same phenomenem is playing out in web forums (GUI
> oriented Usenet-alikes) - where the various privacy laws that are being
> enacted around the globe are causing boards to remove the "private message"
> capability from their boards.  As with Usenet, this forces people to carry
> out their private business in public.  On one board that I use, in
> particular, the lack of PM really screws things up.  It can get
> embarrassing, but, again, it would be better if people were more
> understanding of the fact that we live in a different world than we did 20
> years ago.

Yes, but it is compensated by fact that in current world there are
lot more possibilities to discuss things privately than there was
20 years ago.

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                Invitations (Was: How to div only once to get remainder and quotient?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-04-04 17:04 +0000
                Re: Invitations (Was: How to div only once to get remainder and quotient?) Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-04-07 00:10 -0700
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