Re: Endless wrangling

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Endless wrangling
Date	2021-01-11 23:25 +0100
Message-ID	<3rvuch-6d3.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 11/01/2021 17.34, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 08/01/2021 23.04, sms wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2021 1:54 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 08/01/2021 22.31, sms wrote:
>>>>> On 1/8/2021 9:08 AM, sms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> There was a newsgroup reader that downloaded not just the headers, but
>>>>> the message content as well, so you could filter out posts that were
>>>>> responses to the trolls' posts, but without filtering out the responder
>>>>> completely. But it took a lot of time to download the messages and not
>>>>> just the headers.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird can kill all the responses without downloading the full
>>>> message. It is called "kill subthread".
>>>>
>>>> I have set up my Thunderbird to not cache contents, because I use an
>>>> nntp proxy server that does the caching.
>>>
>>> But you often don't want to kill the whole sub-thread. You just want
>>> delete responses to the trolls, not all responses.
>>
>> Any reply to the troll is the entire SUBthread. There are other posts in
>> the thread which remain intact, but they are not part of the SUBthread
>> the troll started.
>>
>> AAA  good post
>>   BBB troll post
>>     B-reply
>>       C-repl
>>     BB-reply
>>   CCC- good post
>>     CC-reply
>>   DDD good post.
>>
>>
>> I kill the BBB subthread. I get this:
>>
>> AAA  good post
>>   CCC- good post
>>     CC-reply
>>   DDD good post.
> 
>   The 'problem' with that is that 'C-reply' might contain noteworthy
> content and even 'B-reply' might. You can't automate that without some
> real AI.

Yes, that is true.

Thus I only activate this filter with very obnoxious people.

>   So it's basically a balance of noise/annoyance versus content.
> 
>   FWIW, my newsreader (tin) cannot kill responses to killfiled posters
> (unless they have a unique 'tag' in their MID (message-id)), so for me
> this is a non-issue as I will see the sub-thread.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 13:19 -0800
  Re: Endless wrangling VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-07 16:47 -0600
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:42 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 15:56 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 16:14 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 22:43 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 22:42 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 15:33 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 07:41 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 16:38 +0100
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:58 -0700
            Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 09:53 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-08 12:04 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 14:23 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-10 13:37 -0600
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-10 13:48 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-10 21:10 +0000
                Re: Endless wrangling Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-11 06:51 -0700
                Re: Endless wrangling philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-11 08:04 -0600
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:40 +0100
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 16:00 -0700
              Re: Endless wrangling Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-08 22:38 +0000
                Re: Endless wrangling AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-08 16:21 -0700
            Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 09:22 -0800
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:47 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:39 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-07 23:42 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-08 08:10 +0100
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 23:22 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-08 08:23 -0500
      Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:37 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2021-01-08 13:13 -0700
  Re: Endless wrangling Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 14:33 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 11:20 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 11:03 +0000
        Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 10:41 -0800
  Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 09:08 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 13:31 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 22:54 +0100
        Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 14:04 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-08 23:20 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 16:34 +0000
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:25 +0100
        Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 15:47 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:31 +0000
          Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-09 08:57 -0800
            Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 21:15 +0000
            Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-09 23:36 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-09 20:52 -0800
              Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-10 12:36 +0100
          Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-10 09:36 +0100
            Re: Endless wrangling Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 06:39 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:22 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-08 12:48 -0800
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 20:37 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-08 23:55 -0600
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 06:44 +0000
      Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-09 08:45 -0800
        Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 21:20 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 01:29 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 03:34 +0000
    Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-08 21:37 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 06:46 +0000
  Re: Endless wrangling "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2021-01-11 21:51 +0100
    Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-11 14:05 -0800
      Re: Endless wrangling "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:26 +0100
      Re: Endless wrangling Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2021-01-12 03:47 +0100
      Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-12 13:19 +0000
        Re: Endless wrangling sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-12 08:27 -0800
          Re: Endless wrangling Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-12 19:02 +0000
          Re: Endless wrangling The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 20:24 -0800

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