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In message <0622811031.36180aef@uninhabited.net>, at 10:23:48 on Wed, 8 
Jul 2026, Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> remarked:
>On 8 Jul 2026 at 10:40:06 BST, "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <0257130181.2be97c19@uninhabited.net>, at 09:22:51 on Wed, 8
>> Jul 2026, Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> remarked:
>>> On 8 Jul 2026 at 10:03:58 BST, "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <112h2cn$2ad2l$3@dont-email.me>, at 21:15:18 on Mon, 6 Jul
>>>> 2026, John <megane.06@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>> On 06/07/2026 15:55, Malcolm Loades wrote:
>>>>>> Last year we decided to let a flat previously occupied by family
>>>>>> members.  We used a lettings agent who drew up an AST with a "Term 12
>>>>>> months 0 days from 29/10/2025 to and including 28/10/206"
>>>>>>  The tenant has given notice that they will vacate in August 2026, 2
>>>>>> months before 28/10/2026.
>>>>>>  Typing this situation into several AI sites they all say that the
>>>>>> tenant  is liable until 28/10/2026.  However our agent says the law
>>>>>> changes made  in May allow the tenants to give two months notice at
>>>>>> any time.  They  could move in immediately give 2 months notice and
>>>>>> walk away 8 weeks later.
>>>>>>  If it's true ASTs have been scrapped and it's 2 months notice at any
>>>>>> time then we'll sell the property.
>>>>>>  Which Is correct, our agent or AI?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your agent I'm afraid. The law changed in May this year. ukHowever, the
>>>>> two months notice has to end on the rent due date.
>>>>>
>>>>> From Gov.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> You must give your notice:
>>>>>
>>>>> so the tenancy ends on a day when the rent is due or the day before the
>>>>> rent is due
>>>>>
>>>>> So if notice was given on the 6th July, the two months notice is to 6th
>>>>> September, so the tenancy must run to the 28th September.  If it was
>>>>> given prior to 29th June, it will be 28th August.
>>>>
>>>> One of the unintended consequences of this change in the law is a
>>>> looming shortage of student lets, because landlords previously could
>>>> rent for a year, and flip the property between tenants at the start of
>>>> the autumn term. But now they are faced with having up to a three month
>>>> void over the summer vacation, so could decide it's no longer a viable
>>>> business.
>>>
>>> They could show a bit of initiative and do what the universities do; compete
>>> for conference accommodation over the summer.
>>
>> The properties in question are not suitable for conference guests, who
>> also expect beds to be made, breakfast to be cooked for them, and so on.
>> With someone on site to meet and greet.
>>
>> Quite a lot of the accommodation is not particularly close to the
>> Universities themselves, where the conferences take place - I'd guess an
>> average of a 15 minute cycle ride in the provinces, or up to half an
>> hour on the tube in London. And a lot it is in pretty poor condition,
>> rarely with en-suite facilities.
>>
>> Even if the rooms were free, few conference guests would touch them with
>> a bargepole.
>>
>> [I speak from personal experience, with my two children renting
>>  privately not that long ago, for a total of eight years between
>>  them - with only the first year in university accommodation]
>
>Perhaps the landlords don't deserve to get much money then?

They aren't getting conference B&B rates (which about £100/night).

>Although, market forces being what they are, are doubt if they will get 
>any less money for renting out their properties for nine months than 
>they currently do for twelve months. They just have to increase their 
>monthly rent.

That's quite difficult to do, not just from a regulatory point of view, 
but students don't have a bottomless pit of money.

>The students will still have to pay the going rate as there is not a 
>magic source of new accommodation and they still need somewhere to 
>stay.  With the bonus of a few students paying *more* to stay there in 
>the summer.

These mythical summer-only students?
-- 
Roland Perry

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  Re: Lettings question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-07-06 16:05 +0000
  Re: Lettings question John <megane.06@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 21:15 +0100
    Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-08 10:03 +0100
      Re: Lettings question Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2026-07-08 09:22 +0000
        Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-08 10:40 +0100
          Re: Lettings question Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2026-07-08 10:23 +0000
            Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-09 01:22 +0100
        Re: Lettings question JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-07-08 12:13 +0100
          Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-09 07:38 +0100
  Re: Lettings question Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> - 2026-07-07 14:05 +0100
    Re: Lettings question Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2026-07-08 15:05 +0000
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      Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-09 07:36 +0100
        Re: Lettings question RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2026-07-09 07:54 +0000
          Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-09 09:26 +0100
          Re: Lettings question Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> - 2026-07-09 11:52 +0100
            Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-09 14:37 +0100
              Re: Lettings question JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> - 2026-07-09 15:28 +0100
                Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-10 07:38 +0100
                Re: Lettings question Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> - 2026-07-10 13:22 +0100
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              Re: Lettings question John <megane.06@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 13:58 +0100
            Re: Lettings question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-07-09 13:52 +0000
        Re: Lettings question John <megane.06@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 13:47 +0100
      Re: Lettings question Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> - 2026-07-09 11:18 +0100
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      Re: Lettings question Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> - 2026-07-10 18:18 +0100
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