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| Date | 2015-09-04 16:45 -0700 |
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| Subject | Re: What of this ether? |
| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 3:59:18 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote: > "What of this ether?" I queried. > > "It is a necessity in science, but intangible, undemonstrated, unknown, > and wholly theoretical. It is accepted as an existing fluid by > scientists, because human theory can not conceive of a substance capable > of, or explain how a substance can be capable of affecting a separate > body unless there is an intermediate medium to convey force impressions. > Hence to material substances Aristotle added (or at least made > conspicuous) a speculative ether that, he assumed, pervades all space, > and all material bodies as well, in order to account for the passage of > heat and light to and from the sun, stars, and planets." > > "Explain further," I requested. > > "To conceive of such an entity we must imagine a material that is more > evanescent than any known gas, even in its most diffused condition. It > must combine the solidity of the most perfect conductor of heat > (exceeding any known body in this respect to an infinite degree), with > the transparency of an absolute vacuum. It must neither create friction > by contact with any substance, nor possess attraction for matter; must > neither possess weight (and yet carry the force that produces weight), > nor respond to the influence of any chemical agent, or exhibit itself to > any optical instrument. It must be invisible, and yet carry the force > that produces the sensation of sight. It must be of such a nature that > it can not, according to our philosophy, affect the corpuscles of > earthly substances while permeating them without contact or friction, > and yet, as a scientific incongruity, it must act so readily on physical > bodies as to convey to the material eye the sensation of sight, and from > the sun to creatures on distant planets it must carry the heat force, > thus giving rise to the sensation of warmth. Through this medium, yet > without sensible contact with it, worlds must move, and planetary > systems revolve, cutting and piercing it in every direction, without > loss of momentum. And yet, as I have said, this ether must be in such > close contact as to convey to them the essence that warms the universe, > lights the universe, and must supply the attractive bonds that hold the > stellar worlds in position. A nothing in itself, so far as man's senses > indicate, the ether of space must be denser than iridium, more mobile > than any known liquid, and stronger than the finest steel." > > "I can not conceive of such an entity," I replied. > > "No; neither can any man, for the theory is irrational, and can not be > supported by comparison with laws known to man, but the conception is > nevertheless a primary necessity in scientific study. Can man, by any > rational theory, combine a vacuum and a substance, and create a result > that is neither material nor vacuity, neither something nor nothing, and > yet an intensified all; being more attenuated than the most perfect of > known vacuums, and a conductor better than the densest metal? This we do > when we attempt to describe the scientists' all-pervading ether of > space, and to account for its influence on matter. This hypothetical > ether is, for want of a better theory of causes, as supreme in > philosophy to-day as the alkahest of the talented old alchemist Van > Helmont was in former times, a universal spirit that exists in > conception; and yet does not exist in perception, and of which modern > science knows as little as its speculative promulgator, Aristotle, did. > We who pride ourselves on our exact science, smile at some of > Aristotle's statements in other directions, for science has disproved > them, and yet necessity forces us to accept this illogical ether > speculation, which is, perhaps, the most unreasonable of all theories. > Did not this Greek philosopher also gravely assert that the lion has but > one vertebra in his neck; that the breath of man enters the heart; that > the back of the head is empty, and that man has but eight ribs?" Without Aether, what would the gods breath? Double-A
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What of this ether? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 17:58 -0500
Re: What of this ether? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:20 -0700
Re: What of this ether? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-04 16:45 -0700
Re: What of this ether? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:57 -0700
Re: What of this ether? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-06 15:03 -0700
Re: What of this ether? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 11:18 -0700
Re: What of this ether? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-06 12:11 -0700
Re: What of this ether? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-06 15:04 -0700
Re: What of this ether? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 05:03 -0400
aether is the spacve between the atoms of the vacuum (relative, not pascalian noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:03 -0700
What of this ether? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 18:05 -0700
Re: What of this ether? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 06:48 -0400
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