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Re: For The Gamers

Subject Re: For The Gamers
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From Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
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Date 2024-12-27 22:05 -0500

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On 2024-12-27 21:41, RonB wrote:
> On 2024-12-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-24 04:39, RonB wrote:
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>>>> Well, I can tell you that there are certain advanced features people
>>>> need in Microsoft Office which seem to be unavailable to LibreOffice
>>>> users. Of course, they might just be somewhere else in the open suite,
>>>> like when I received a document with forms in .DOCX and had someone here
>>>> convert it to the equivalent in .ODT. At the same time, I don't use any
>>>> of the advanced features so LibreOffice has always been more than enough
>>>> for me. The only reason I use Microsoft's suite is because I got a
>>>> license for cheap. I can also use the 365 license I get from work for
>>>> free. Since I routinely receive documents from them to fill out, I have
>>>> no proper use for Libre.
>>>
>>> I guess I've never had any use for these advanced features. All I know is
>>> that, when we would get Word Documents at the print shop, we had a heck of a
>>> time cleaning them up for Desk Top Application. Lot of hidden code.
>>
>> I believe that is part of the reason why legal offices still prefer
>> WordPerfect Office over Microsoft's software.
> 
> I think WordPerfect also has special templates for lawyers. And, I'm
> guessing, it's inertia thing again. WordPerfect got popular for lawyers, so
> they keep using it.

That's probably true. I never got too far into using it because the 
"legal" license I bought on eBay turned out not to be legal. One update 
later and poof, no more functionality.

>>>>> In my opinion M$ Office is bloated crapware that tries to "think" for you.
>>>>> But I was only occasionally forced to use it so I never got in stuck in the
>>>>> "inertia loop."
>>>>
>>>> I would extend that to Windows itself too. The way it has implemented AI
>>>> makes it clear that they don't want you thinking. Of course, there are
>>>> certain places where I appreciate the AI like in Brave Search or Bing
>>>> Search. There, if there is a certain technological question like what is
>>>> the benefit of one monitor over another, the engine quickly scours the
>>>> web for information and summarizes the data for me. That is much easier
>>>> than navigating to a bunch of websites which cannon a series of ads at me.
>>>
>>> I turn off AI in my searches. I don't know about Brave or Bing, but in
>>> Firefox you just add the udm14 add-on and AI results are gone in Google.
>>
>> I'm a big fan of Brave's AI, to be honest. When I was looking up the
>> fTPM problem I mentioned in a previous post, it saved me a lot of time
>> by telling me what people were saying, how to fix it, whether or not
>> Linux is affected and so on. Had I been forced to read all that content
>> on my own, I'd probably get discouraged. In fact, I might never have
>> learned that the Linux kernel actually addresses the problem and allows
>> you to circumvent the issue entirely.
> 
> I've been using Firefox for so long that I don't think I would want to move
> away from it. I can customize so it's very minimal and that's something I
> _do_ do on new installs, get Firefox working the way I like it.
> 
> My impression of AI is just not very good. It always sounds like an
> informercial to me. And it pisses me off that these AI server farms use as
> much power as whole cities and not a damn peep (or very muted whining) about
> it from the climate screechers — who keep trying to get us (personally) to
> use less and less power. I guess the AI server farms are more important than
> people.

I swore not to use Firefox but it looks like it's the best browser on 
Linux if you don't want your dGPU to be used needlessly, and if you want 
gestures to work as they should. Using Firefox, I can flick two fingers 
back and forth to go to the previous web page or the next one, but it 
doesn't work anywhere else. If I use Brave, it ignores the fact that I 
don't want hardware acceleration too whereas Firefox respects my wishes.

>>>>> My wife uses Power Point. She originally used it because a template she
>>>>> purchased only worked with Power Point. Now she's used to using it, so
>>>>> she'll probably keep using it as long as she needs to prepare classes. Just
>>>>> the way it works. People use what they're used to using. Inertia.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why so many still use the inferior Microsoft Windows crap OS.
>>>>
>>>> I can't argue that habit plays a big part in what people choose to use.
>>>> At the same time, that's why I usually load Linux Mint for whatever user
>>>> I help: it's not that unfamiliar.
>>>
>>> Linux Mint is often suggested for those moving from Windows because it does
>>> work similarly (at least at the Desktop level). I'm sure that design is not
>>> by accident.
>>
>> I chose Fedora this time around because www.asus-linux.org offers a
>> comprehensive guide for the distribution to make sure that everything
>> you want works as it should on your hardware. I chose the KDE flavour
>> and it more or less behaves like a snappier Windows.
> 
> I could use Fedora (especially with the Cinnamon spin) without much trouble.
> Synaptic is better than Fedora's install application and Linux Mint has nice
> little utilities built-in, but (for when it matters) you're trading "cutting
> edge" for a little more convenience. (A trade I don't mind making.) In
> Linux Mint, if I install EasyEffects (for example), I'll have to use FlatPak
> instead of the repository (at least in version 21). So there's pros and
> cons.

You have the same kind of choice in Fedora as it relates to Flatpaks and 
the rest. It's actually kind of annoying when you're looking for 
applications because you're never sure which version will integrate best 
with the rest of your system.

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 19:02 +0000
  Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 14:42 -0500
    Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 20:43 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-21 22:09 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 22:20 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 17:25 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:05 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 23:08 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 19:20 -0600
      Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 22:45 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-22 08:30 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 22:05 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:21 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:12 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 07:17 -0600
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:39 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 08:15 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 18:34 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 19:31 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 19:51 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 21:35 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 17:47 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-12 01:16 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:36 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 11:12 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 19:53 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 13:35 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 15:58 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-12 16:21 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 09:08 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:48 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:09 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-11 16:44 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 13:40 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 16:50 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:58 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:51 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:31 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 21:04 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 07:35 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 13:05 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:43 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:01 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 11:36 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:32 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:36 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-12-21 22:48 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 18:05 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:25 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:06 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:39 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:30 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:37 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:17 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:55 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:44 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:14 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-25 06:53 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:35 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:54 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:42 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:18 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:15 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:18 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:30 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:03 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 08:33 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 09:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:00 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:22 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:21 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:51 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:00 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:51 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:41 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:05 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:14 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:28 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 07:45 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:27 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:23 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:50 -0600
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:14 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-22 10:40 -0600
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:54 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:12 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:11 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:43 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:10 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:42 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:29 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-23 07:51 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:18 -0500
  Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 +0000
  Re: For The Gamers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-21 23:35 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:52 -0600
    Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:09 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:42 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 12:57 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:04 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:28 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:01 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:38 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:31 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:04 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:47 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:27 +0000

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