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| From | Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: There gos the political correctness... |
| Date | 2016-11-21 19:22 +0100 |
| Organization | clonix & klauknowhowtechnologies |
| Message-ID | <3860520.9GskxG0076@rotfl.franken.de> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <2278992.Iz4ZBqf01p@rotfl.franken.de> <o0kogo$9ko$1@news.albasani.net> <14232019.OQ8CHKxyCC@rotfl.franken.de> <slrno2to5m.1sh.lars.gebauer@yenni.elke-albrecht.com> <o0mofc$qed$1@news.albasani.net> |
Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote:
> Am 18.11.16 um 12:05 schrieb Lars Gebauer:
>> * Dietz Pröpper:
>>> Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote:
>>>> Am 17.11.16 um 17:48 schrieb Dietz Pröpper:
>>>>> Was ist scheinheilig daran, dem Pressecodex zu folgen?
>>>>
>>>> In der Konsequenz führt es zum Vertrauensverlust der Bürger in die
>>>> Medien.
>>
>> ACK
>>
>>> Das kann ich in meinem Bekanntenkreis so nicht bestätigen. Die etwas
>>> aufgeklärteren erkennen selbstständig, dass in den allermeisten Fällen
>>> Nationalität, Geschlecht und Unterwäschenfarbe des Täters eher nachrangige
>>> Aspekte des Falles darstellen.
>>
>> Das ist einerseits vollkommen richtig, ignoriert aber andererseits
>> komplett das Informationsbedürfnis des Medienkonsumenten.
>>
>> Über dieses Informationsbedürfnis kann man jetzt denken was man will,
>> es zu ignorieren ist und bleibt aber eine grottendoofe Idee. Da ist es
>> dann gar kein Wunder, wenn sich der Konsument von den etablierten
>> Medien ab- und sich irgendwelchen grotesk-obskuren Webseiten zuwendet.
>> Sich dann auf Dinge wie den Pressecodex zu berufen manifestiert den
>> Verlust des Vertrauens vollständig - weil er die "gefühlte Wahrheit"
>> nur noch bestätigt.
>
> Ganz genau so. Dem Bürger zu sagen "das brauchst Du nicht zu wissen, das
> tut nichts zur Sache und verwirrt dich nur" ist doch maximal
> kontraproduktiv.
Das sagt auch niemand. Wenn aber "der Bürger" die Herkunft von Straftätern
erfahren möchte, dann stellt sich die Frage, zu welchem Zweck.
Der einzige, der *mir* einfällt ist die Bestätigung von Vorurteilen ("Die
Polen klauen alle", "die Osteuropäer sind alles Verbrecher", "Die Neger
verkaufen nur Drogen"). Und da sag' ich ganz offen, geht zum Teufel.
Bzw. wenn, dann bitte richtig. Beruf, Herkunft (Geburtsort), Abstammung der
Eltern, Einkommen laut letzter Steuererklärung, Haarfarbe, Körpergröße,
Gewicht. Alles andere ist Tatsachenunterdrückung!!111
> Wer will so eine Zensur, was hat man sich davon erhofft?
Wo wird zensiert? Bzw. nicht irgendwelche Rassisten zu füttern ist keine
Zensur.
> Das Resultat ist das heuteige Mißtrauen der Bürger gegen die Medien,
Verzeihung, "Lugenbrese" (nur mit Teppfielern authentisch) kommt von der
Deppen-Alternative und den PEGIDA-Spacken.
Wann werden die beiden eigentlich endlich wegen Hasspropaganda verboten? Oh.
Ich vergaß. Das geht ja nur bei Islamisten.
> und
> wie Du so schön schreibst versucht er sich dann aus anderen und i.d.R.
> weit weniger seriösen Kanälen seine Information zu verschaffen.
Sorry, aber da verwechselst Du was. Bestenfalls das bildungsferne Bürgertum
schöpft seine Informationen aus Fratzbook und den ganzen braun gefärbten
Hetzerblogs.
>> In eine ähnliche Zwickmühle hat sich nun auch ein Großteil der
>> gegenwärtigen Medien hineingewirtschaftet. Sehenden Auges und
>> natürlich immer im Bestreben, Das Gute, Schöne und Richtige zu tun.
>
> Tja.
Quatsch. Vergesst mal nicht, die angeblichen 20% Deppenalternativer bedeuten,
dass es immer noch 80% anständige Deutsche gibt. Modulo Wahlbeteiligung sogar
fast 90%. Und mit einem bestimmten Anteil an rechten oder linken Extremisten
muss man halt leben.
>>> Generell ist auch die Unkenntnis beachtlich - Du darfst z.B. guten
>>> Gewissens davon ausgehen, dass sogar hier maximal einer von dreien die
>>> Definition von "Migrationshintergrund" richtig wiedergeben kann.
>>
>> Auch das ist richtig - hat aber hat aber überhaupt nichts mit dem
>> Problem des gefühlten oder realen Informationsdefizites zu tun.
Naja, wer nicht mal weiß, wovon er spricht, der soll vielleicht einfach mal
die Fresse halten (nee, Du bist nicht gemeint).
>>>> Ob es das wert war weiß ich nicht. Insgesamt war es wohl eher
>>>> kontraproduktiv. Vor allen Dingen wenn die Bevölkerung ziemlich präzise
>>>> Vorstellungen durch Meldungen aus erster Hand hatte, wer die Häuser in
>>>> der Gegend ausräumt.
>>>
>>> Interessant. Woher kamen die Meldungen? Wenn man wusste, wer die Häuser
>>> ausräumt, warum konnte man jene nicht dingfest machen?
>
> Die Witwe des Messners war ja gefesselt und geschlagen worden und konnte
> ja noch sprechen und berichten, wen sie gesehen und gehört hat. Und die
> Täter waren erst mal zurück ins Ausland geflohen. Unsere Kripo war aber
> eng auf der Spur, in Österreich konnten sie dann verhaftet werden. Auch
> dort waren sie straffällig geworden.
Und was ist der Gewinn, wenn jetzt die Herkunft der Täter publik gemacht wird?
Dass die Volksseele in ihren Vorurteilen bestätigt wird?
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There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-17 10:13 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-17 10:33 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-17 11:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-17 11:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-17 11:40 +0100
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Re: There gos the political correctness... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-18 08:05 +0100
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Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-17 03:06 -0800
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Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-19 14:39 +0100
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Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-17 16:01 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-17 23:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-18 09:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-18 01:44 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-18 14:51 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-18 05:58 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-19 13:04 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-11-18 22:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-18 11:05 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-18 12:25 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-21 11:03 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-21 11:23 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-21 12:33 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-11-21 12:49 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-21 14:19 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 14:27 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-21 15:34 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-21 15:46 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-11-21 15:46 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-21 07:58 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 16:06 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:27 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-11-22 05:36 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-21 15:27 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-21 15:40 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-21 15:54 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:28 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-21 19:49 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 14:44 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-21 15:48 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 14:51 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:29 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 18:51 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:06 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-21 20:28 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-21 16:05 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-21 14:16 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-21 16:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-21 16:26 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:33 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 08:32 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 09:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:25 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 18:55 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-21 13:00 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-21 22:23 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 00:04 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 09:32 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 00:05 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 09:35 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 00:56 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 08:34 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 09:41 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:13 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 13:37 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 16:15 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 18:26 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 12:17 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 13:51 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 16:17 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 07:42 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 17:32 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 18:47 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 09:59 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:06 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 10:08 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-23 03:17 +0100
Re: There goes the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 10:03 -0800
Re: There goes the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 08:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 19:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 18:37 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 17:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:00 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 08:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-23 16:59 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-23 03:17 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:13 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:08 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 10:52 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 11:03 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 11:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 13:41 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 14:20 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:15 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 10:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 13:03 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 14:35 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 10:02 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:17 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 10:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-24 09:34 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-24 17:02 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-24 17:18 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:18 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:18 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-24 10:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 07:30 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:10 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 21:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 21:33 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-23 09:42 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 09:48 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 11:01 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 12:00 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 12:21 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 11:53 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 12:32 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 14:52 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-24 14:35 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 16:18 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 14:40 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 21:37 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-21 21:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-21 19:22 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-21 18:47 +0000
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Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 09:29 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 09:56 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 01:08 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 11:20 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 11:54 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 03:06 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:25 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:51 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:27 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:36 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 15:30 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 15:32 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:12 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:51 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:34 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 08:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 14:59 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 16:20 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:25 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 11:05 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 13:42 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 15:14 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 16:22 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 17:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 08:26 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 17:48 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 08:55 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-24 16:59 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 18:52 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 12:00 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-25 12:56 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 19:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 12:48 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 07:25 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-25 07:15 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-25 08:37 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 23:45 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 11:15 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 11:13 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 11:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-25 11:24 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 12:25 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-25 12:29 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-25 12:47 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-25 15:27 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 19:15 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-24 21:01 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-25 12:49 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-24 12:32 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:28 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 13:46 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:20 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 16:21 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-23 18:53 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-07 17:26 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-07 17:52 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-12-07 09:41 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-07 17:56 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-07 18:10 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-07 18:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-12-07 09:21 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-12-07 13:56 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-12-08 10:16 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-12-08 02:22 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-08 13:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-12-08 04:38 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-08 13:48 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2016-12-08 15:51 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-12-07 18:33 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2016-12-08 15:54 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Goetz Schultz <ng-delete-mailer@goetz.co.uk> - 2016-12-07 22:33 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 14:47 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:03 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:31 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 16:04 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:18 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:48 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2016-11-22 18:01 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2016-11-22 21:10 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:26 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 15:03 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 15:51 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:53 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:25 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:29 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 13:33 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 15:57 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 18:39 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 19:18 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-23 09:45 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 19:57 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 20:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-22 10:50 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 02:58 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:36 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:01 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 09:44 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 10:12 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:43 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 12:02 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 12:16 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 21:38 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:34 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 12:20 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-22 10:19 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-11-22 11:27 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:49 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-22 11:57 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:16 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 18:47 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 15:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 19:13 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-23 09:35 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-23 10:26 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:30 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-22 09:54 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-22 13:39 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 09:33 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-23 09:53 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-23 10:05 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-23 11:36 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-11-23 11:09 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-23 11:43 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-23 12:19 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-23 03:26 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-23 06:20 -0800
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:32 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Thomas Heuving <heuving@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 10:06 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Gunter Kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 10:16 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Thomas Heuving <heuving@gmx.de> - 2016-11-22 10:31 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Gunter Kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 11:11 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:20 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Gunter Kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 12:36 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:21 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 17:28 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 21:04 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 21:35 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-22 20:51 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-22 21:33 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 11:09 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 12:46 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-11-22 10:29 +0000
Re: There gos the political correctness... Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-20 01:07 +0100
Re: There gos the political correctness... Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-19 13:04 +0100
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