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| From | "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: "Panama papers" |
| Date | 2016-04-07 03:37 +0000 |
| Organization | jors.net |
| Message-ID | <35784.2602.1460000239@news.jors.net> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <ne2tqo$luq$1@dont-email.me> <f845d145-7d98-49f8-a504-313c7304dd61@googlegroups.com> <ne315e$dps$1@solani.org> <1595ei32g2a7y$.1brk9rkbuad0h$.dlg@40tude.net> <ne346f$co2$1@news.albasani.net> |
Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net>: > On 06.04.2016 15:44, Frank Hucklenbroich wrote: >> Am Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:58:22 +0200 schrieb Matthias Eißing: >> >>> Am 06.04.16 um 14:56 schrieb Lothar Frings: >>>> Briefkastenfirmen sind nicht verboten. Steuerhinterziehung >>>> ist verboten. >>> >>> Letzteres ist ja auch der Grund für die Briefkastenfirmen. >> >> Ein möglicher Grund. Es gibt auch genug andere, legitime Gründe. Zum >> Beispiel wenn jemand in einem Land lebt, in dem die Banken nicht unabhängig >> sind und derjenige Angst haben muß, von der jeweiligen Regierung enteignet >> zu werden. > > Warum braucht derjenige dafür eine Briefkastenfirma und legt das Geld > nicht als Privatperson im Ausland an? Damit es legal und keine Hinterzeihung ist. Als Privatperson musst du natuerlich auch dann Steuern zahlen, wenn du dein Geld im Ausland auf einer Bank oder in einer Matratze versteckst. Nur wenn du das Geld an eine Firma mit Sitz im Ausland vershiebst, gilt das dortige Steuerrecht. Und wenn diese Ausland keine Gewerbesteuer und keine Umsatzsteuer erhebt, dann hast du ganz legal Steuern hin^Wgespart. Das kannst du aber nicht als Privatmensch. Dazu musst du schon deinen Wohnsitz und deinen Erwerbsort in dieses Ausland versetzen, und je nach Herkunftsland auch noch deine Staatsbuergerschaft wechseln. Einige Privatmenschen machen das. Aber das mit der Offshore-Firma ist einfacher und genauso legal. >> Oder, viel profaner, jemand will vor einer drohenden Scheidung etwas Geld >> beiseite schaffen (frag Donald Trump, der kennt sich damit aus). > > Und inwiefern ist das jetzt legitim? Es ist legal. Juergen -- Juergen P. Meier - "This World is about to be Destroyed!" end If you think technology can solve your problems you don't understand technology and you don't understand your problems. (Bruce Schneier)
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"Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-06 11:55 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-06 10:35 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 04:08 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-06 11:16 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-06 14:04 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 14:14 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 05:25 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Dorothee Hermann <DorotheeHermann@gmx.net> - 2016-04-06 14:31 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-04-30@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-04-07 18:31 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-06 12:48 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Robin Koch <robin.koch@t-online.de> - 2016-04-12 02:30 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-04-25 19:37 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-25 11:08 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-04-25 20:37 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2016-04-25 21:09 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Robin Koch <robin.koch@t-online.de> - 2016-04-25 22:22 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-26 04:38 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-06 17:43 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-07 03:41 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 05:50 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-04-07 08:01 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 06:10 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 10:11 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-07 08:55 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 10:23 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-07 10:27 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 10:54 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-04-07 21:16 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 14:05 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 10:03 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-07 08:14 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 09:50 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-07 14:03 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-07 16:07 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-07 16:51 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-07 16:14 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 17:08 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-04-07 21:23 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 15:18 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-07 13:42 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-07 14:05 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 17:21 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-06 12:37 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 05:56 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 14:58 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-06 13:19 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-04-06 22:53 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 23:04 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-06 15:44 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-04-06 15:50 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:10 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-07 03:37 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 06:02 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:02 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 09:21 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:46 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2016-04-07 08:35 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:06 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Thomas Heuving <heuving@gmx.de> - 2016-04-07 14:16 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 17:26 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-04-07 18:04 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 18:33 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 18:59 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" gunter kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-04-08 05:41 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 10:46 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-07 10:52 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:17 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" gunter kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-04-06 16:08 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-06 16:00 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:16 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:08 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-06 17:49 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-04-06 18:37 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:21 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 10:38 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:48 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-06 10:59 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 22:57 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-04-07 03:45 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-06 15:40 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-06 18:06 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-04-06 18:39 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-04-06 18:41 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 19:25 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-07 13:47 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-07 16:09 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2016-04-07 16:47 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 17:36 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" gunter kühne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-04-08 05:39 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-04-08 08:18 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-04-30@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-04-08 17:45 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Dorothee Hermann <DorotheeHermann@gmx.net> - 2016-04-08 18:22 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-04-30@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-04-08 21:24 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Dorothee Hermann <DorotheeHermann@gmx.net> - 2016-04-09 00:25 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-04-30@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-04-09 18:35 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-04-30@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-04-10 19:15 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 08:56 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-04-08 08:20 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 11:07 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-04-08 09:22 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 11:38 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-08 02:50 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 11:56 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-08 03:06 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-08 10:37 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 14:37 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 14:56 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-08 06:10 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 15:14 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 15:00 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 15:18 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 15:34 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 16:16 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 17:54 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 22:29 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-04-10 06:21 -0700
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 15:38 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 14:29 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-04-08 16:33 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 14:24 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 14:13 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-08 15:07 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-08 15:20 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 15:03 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 15:26 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-04-10 15:41 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-10 16:25 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 18:59 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-04-06 15:36 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-06 18:51 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-04-07 01:41 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 05:45 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:53 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-04-07 10:12 +0000
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-07 11:50 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-04-08 02:15 +0200
Re: "Panama papers" Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-04-09 13:17 +0200
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