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Re: Importing multiple .js files

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Eric Bednarz wrote:

> Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 2013-10-25 12:09, Robert Crandal wrote:
> 
> [loading multiple script files with static script elements]
> 
>> It's the most common way. As for "best", that depends on your usage
>> pattern. If the included scripts are static and included on all of your
>> pages, it would be more efficient to concatentate them into one large
>> file and include that instead. Ten <script> elements means ten requests
>> to the server. Requesting one large file is more efficient than
>> requesting ten separate smaller ones.
> 
> IMNSHO there's a lot wrong with that concatenated picture.

You might want to reconsider.
 
> 1) What is 'large'? If you you have five script files between five and
> ten KiB, go ahead. But is it more efficient to load 500 KiB (or more)
> script synchronously before you can render anything at all instead of
> loading what you need in order to render the initial view first and
> lazy-load the rest?

Lazy loading was not considered in the argument; therefore, ignoring that 
possibility: yes, one request is more efficient than several ones.  As for 
“500 KiB (or more)”, see below.
 
> 2) Loading a really large file is usually much less efficient than
> loading several smaller files dynamically in parallel in most (more or
> less) contemporary browsers. This might depend on the precise values of
> 'several' and 'contemporary', of course.

How did you get that idea?  You are also not considering that the number of 
parallel HTTP requests is limited, not only by HTTP/1.1 definitions, and 
that even if parallel download is possible, parallel parsing is not.
 
> 3) If you happen to exclusively develop for UA's that already support
> SPDY, you're just waisting time anyway (or rather, you're being
                    ^^^^^^^^
Big fat time? ;-)

> very productive shooting yourself in your foot).

Although true, the argument is fallacious here.  One cannot assume SPDY 
support.  To quote: “As of April 2013, approximately 1% of all websites 
support SPDY.[30] Some Google services (e.g. Google search, Gmail, and other 
SSL-enabled services) use SPDY when available.[31] Google's ads are also 
served from SPDY-enabled servers.[32]”

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY>
 
> 4) If you change one character in a one MiB file, you have to serve one
> MiB to propagate that change to the client.

Not necessarily.  Besides, he who serves 1 MiB of script code has bigger 
problems than the one at hand; this is a fallacious argument.

-- 
PointedEars

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Importing multiple .js files "Robert Crandal" <rcranz143101@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 03:09 -0700
  Re: Importing multiple .js files Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 13:06 +0200
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-25 22:18 +0200
      Re: Importing multiple .js files "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-10-26 00:05 +0300
        Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-25 23:54 +0200
          Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-27 14:05 +0000
            Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-27 17:05 +0100
              Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-28 15:40 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-28 15:49 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-29 16:29 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-29 20:41 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-31 13:30 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-29 22:13 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-30 00:50 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-31 15:52 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-31 17:19 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-01 15:27 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-31 18:34 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-10-31 20:36 +0200
                FAQ discussion (was: Importing multiple .js files) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: FAQ discussion Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-06 12:20 +0100
                Re: FAQ discussion Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-06 14:33 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-01 15:12 +0000
                "javascript" (was: Importing multiple .js files) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-11-04 18:36 +0100
                Re: "javascript" (was: Importing multiple .js files) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-05 02:41 +0100
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 00:30 +0200
      Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 00:58 +0200
        Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 01:27 +0200
          Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 02:37 +0200
            Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:49 +0100
              Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 15:38 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 16:11 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 20:16 +0100
      Re: Importing multiple .js files Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-10-27 02:01 +0100
        Re: Importing multiple .js files danca <cyberdanny@tiscalinet.it> - 2013-10-27 11:30 +0100
  Re: Importing multiple .js files nappysoft <nappysoft@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 05:53 -0800
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-21 16:15 +0100

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