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Re: Importing multiple .js files

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:

> Eric Bednarz wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:

>>> How did you get that idea?  You are also not considering that the number
>>> of parallel HTTP requests is limited,
>> 
>> ... to an average of 6 to 8 requests per hostname, these days.
>
> How did you get that idea?

Since you have namedropped Steve Souders at Jukka in this thread, there
you go:

http://www.browserscope.org/?category=network&v=top

>
>> We were talking about less than ten scripts.
>
> Were we?

If 'we' includes the OP, yes.

>> Map that to 'usually'.

>> - one script can be parsed while another one downloads
>
> No, in general it cannot.

Lazy parsers can, and do.

> As I have had to realize with regard to my code,
>
>   /* part 1 */
>   var f = function () {};
>
>   /* part 2 */
>   var f2 = (function () {
>     /* function */
>     var _f = f;
>
>     return function () {
>       return _f;
>     };
>   }());
>
> has a different result than
>   
>   /* part 1 */
>   var f2 = (function () {
>     /* undefined */

Try that in Chakra instead.

>     var _f = f;
>
>     return function () {
>       return _f;
>     };
>   }());
>
>   /* part 2 */
>   var f = function () {};

But even implementations that won't start producing the AST before all
pending scripts have been retrieved can benefit from parallel
loading. You have to take take care of correct execution order, of
course, but that's not difficult these days.

>> - meanwhile, the DOM can be parsed, too
>
> No, it (the _document_; the DOM is an *API* instead) cannot: Client-side 
> scripts can modify the document while it is being parsed.

Pardon? If you load script dynamically, the static document can be
incrementally rendered before the script has been retrieved and executed
(if your document is small enough, the injected scripts might even miss
the DOMContentLoaded event).

> There is one exception to this rule, and that is when the (formerly, 
> proprietary) “defer” attribute is specified on the “script” element, *and* 
> supported (but document.write() cannot be used there).

Ugh. Defer is utterly unsafe in Internet Explorer 9 and older if any but
the last deferred script modifies the DOM.

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Importing multiple .js files "Robert Crandal" <rcranz143101@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 03:09 -0700
  Re: Importing multiple .js files Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 13:06 +0200
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-25 22:18 +0200
      Re: Importing multiple .js files "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-10-26 00:05 +0300
        Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-25 23:54 +0200
          Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-27 14:05 +0000
            Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-27 17:05 +0100
              Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-28 15:40 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-28 15:49 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-29 16:29 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-29 20:41 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-10-31 13:30 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-29 22:13 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-30 00:50 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-31 15:52 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-31 17:19 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-01 15:27 +0000
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-31 18:34 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-10-31 20:36 +0200
                FAQ discussion (was: Importing multiple .js files) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: FAQ discussion Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-06 12:20 +0100
                Re: FAQ discussion Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-06 14:33 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-01 15:12 +0000
                "javascript" (was: Importing multiple .js files) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-11-04 18:36 +0100
                Re: "javascript" (was: Importing multiple .js files) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-05 02:41 +0100
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 00:30 +0200
      Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 00:58 +0200
        Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 01:27 +0200
          Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 02:37 +0200
            Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:49 +0100
              Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 15:38 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-10-27 16:11 +0100
                Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-27 20:16 +0100
      Re: Importing multiple .js files Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-10-27 02:01 +0100
        Re: Importing multiple .js files danca <cyberdanny@tiscalinet.it> - 2013-10-27 11:30 +0100
  Re: Importing multiple .js files nappysoft <nappysoft@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 05:53 -0800
    Re: Importing multiple .js files Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-21 16:15 +0100

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