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Re: Less Is Moore

Date 2015-04-27 13:29 -1000
From "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Organization FORTH, Inc.
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Less Is Moore
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On 4/27/15 10:22 AM, Alex McDonald wrote:
> on 27/04/2015 21:10:04, Steve Graham wrote:
>> https://samgentle.com/posts/2015-04-26-less-is-moore
>>
>> The author posits that Forth is minimalistic because it originated in
>> a resource-constrained era and asks if it is still relevant?
>>
>> What other strengths of Forth do you appreciate other than the ability
>> to operate in systems with relatively constrained resources?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> Dealing with the "relatively constrained resources" dismissal first:
>
> "Forth from a time when computers were slower and less forgiving. I don't
> think this is a coincidence. Constrained environments require efficiency
> and elegance in design... Communicating this text on a system probably
> 10+ layers removed from the bare metal, it's hard to argue that you don't
> get a lot done by just embracing all of the frameworks and platforms,
> efficiency be damned. I think this is a significant factor that makes
> Moore, like Forth, a fairly fringe player in the programming language
> scene."
>
> Moore might be fringe, but Forth not so, and resource constrained
> Internet of Things is the brave new world. The things can be very small
> and very constrained indeed. Apple Watch. Nest. My coffee pot.
>

Yes. Particularly in fields where volumes of devices are extremely high, 
there's a lot of pressure to keep costs down. Even though "memory's 
cheap" (a cry we've been hearing for at least 30 years), there's always 
pressure on a product to do more, be smarter, store more data, etc. Any 
technology that facilitates this has a place today, as ever.

The challenge is to get the facts out for entrepreneurs to take 
advantage of!

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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Less Is Moore Steve Graham <solitary.wanderer52@gmail.com> - 2015-04-27 13:10 -0700
  Re: Less Is Moore "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-27 21:22 +0100
    Re: Less Is Moore "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-27 13:29 -1000
      Re: Less Is Moore Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-28 01:12 -0700
  Re: Less Is Moore "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-27 18:37 -0400
    Re: Less Is Moore "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-27 18:39 -0400
      Re: Less Is Moore "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-27 13:26 -1000
        Re: Less Is Moore "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-27 20:11 -0400
          Re: Less Is Moore "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-27 17:59 -1000
  Re: Less Is Moore "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-05-01 13:39 +1000

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