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| From | wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: What is OOP? |
| Date | 2025-09-28 16:02 +0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <299d889f3c4a35402d3d2d31a133315681b7edef.camel@gmail.com> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 2024-12-02 at 01:17 +0800, wij wrote:
> There are several understandings:
> https://www.quora.com/As-an-experienced-OOP-programmer-in-your-opinion-whats-the-biggest-problem-of-OOP-object-oriented-programming
>
> ...
> OO can have many meaning. I took OO to mean object, the basic entity of the
> programming model and the operation of the object. The concept, as foundmental,
> has to be solid, practical and easily usable. Otherwise, more codes and efforts
> will be needed latter to fix it, making the original goal ,practically, a lie.
> IOW, (nearly) a flawless model is all the basics. ...
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/ClassGuidelines.txt/download
>
> From my view, programming language has to provide a model, so that programmers
> know what they are dealing with, to solve the problem (recent C++ seems solving
> just syntax problems).
> In (my) OOP, 'portability' (or reusable) is first achieved by making the
> probramming object compatible (form platform to platfrom or from time to time
> in the same platform, but libwy only considers linux, but the idea should be
> generally applicable), i.e. like pod types, structures, union may not be portable.
>
> Programming object or 'concept' are 'better' represented/wrapped by class (keyword)
> All should be simple, I don't know how to make the idea of 'object' more simpler.
> See the guidelines.
>
> OTOH, in C/C++, every memory objects/function has address, the language cannot
> pretend it is not actually dealing with a large array of raw 'bytes' and its
> restrictions (and restrict by Turing Machine). I think that is generally where
> many programming problems from. And, understanding C or assembly is nearly a must
> before understanding C++, otherwise, no real meaning, simply put.
>
Axiom 2 should explain why C++ can be powerful over other languages, esp. if
it strictly follows Axiom 2 as the essence of 'OOP' (the development of C++ is nowhere
near Axiom 2). See also link of ClassGuidelines.txt (it may look trivial, but don't
be fooled. Try follow it every time you design a class).
Many idea about 'program' should have been demonstrated in RealNumber2-en.txt:
Procedural language itself is more expressive (and more real) than any
other formal language in various math/logic theories.
---- Snippet from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download
(about real number and infinity)
...
Axiom 2: An object (e.g., number, form) and its (operational) properties exist
simultaneously through definition.
'='::= a=b iff a-b=0
The meaning of the equality sign '=' can sometimes be ambiguous. This
definition is intended only as a reference when its meaning is in doubt or
undefined. According to Axiom 2, a number and its +/- operation must be
defined simultaneously in order to use this definition to determine "equality".
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Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 14:07 -0600
Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-09 09:51 -0800
Re: What is OOP? --- The most important aspect of OOP Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 17:43 -0800
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