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Re: RTF vs XCode

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In article <lh6dkk$45l$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
wrote:

> Tim Streater wrote:
> > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> I don't know about BBEdit, but GraphicConverter is definitely "suffix
> >> aware" - when in a Save As window, whatever suffix you type on the
> >> filename will automatically change the file format it saves as (as will
> >> choosing the format from the pop-up menu of course). If you type ".jpg"
> >> or ".jpeg" the file saves as a JPG. If you type ".tiff" it saves as a
> >> TIF, etc.
> >
> > Well obviously. A .tiff is a different format from a .jpg or .png and
> > the file sizes will be diffeent too.
> >
> > A .txt file is just text. So is a .rtf file. You can save your text
> > file as .doc but that doesn't make the file be in Word format. Try
> > writing some simple text in a Word document, save it as .doc, and open
> > that with BBedit and see how far you get.
> 
> Exact this method I've used many, many times when people came to me with 
> more or less damaged .doc/.docx files which they aren't able to open in 
> Word (mainly Word for Windows).

Even when the .doc file contains tables, footnotes, styled text (such
as italics or bold), headings, paragraph spacing, different fonts and
points sizes, and so on? You trying to pretend that this information
can be manipulated by native BBedit? (I know nothing of these plugins
of which you speak)

You might be able to manage some of that with a .docx file, which AIUI
is in XML, and therefore when opened by a text editor will appear as
text, and which you stand some chance of being able to edit without
destroying it.

The only circumstance in which you might manage it with a .doc file,
which is a binary format, is if the author used Word as a text editor -
didn't use any tables, footnotes, styled text (such as italics or
bold), headings, paragraph spacing, different fonts or points sizes. A
circumstance in which, IOW, the author might as well have used a text
editor to prepare the text, but didn't. The text in such a file is
usually quite visible.

> The most obvious differences are all the crap that MSWD puts into the 
> document header and each and everytime you've hit the 'Save' command.

This "crap" as you so wittily describe it, is where the formatting
information about tables, footnotes, styled text (such as italics or
bold), headings, paragraph spacing, different fonts and points sizes is
stored.

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RTF vs XCode Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-27 20:26 -0700
  Re: RTF vs XCode Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-28 04:11 +0000
    Re: RTF vs XCode Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-27 23:35 -0700
      Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-28 14:30 +0100
        Re: RTF vs XCode Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-28 06:39 -0700
      Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 08:41 +1200
  Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 08:44 +1200
    Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-28 23:28 +0100
      Re: RTF vs XCode Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-28 23:06 +0000
        Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 12:24 +1200
          Re: RTF vs XCode Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-29 08:02 +0000
            Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-29 13:17 +0100
              Re: RTF vs XCode Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-29 18:02 +0000
                Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-30 03:00 +0200
            Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-30 09:55 +1200
              Re: RTF vs XCode Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-29 22:27 +0000
              Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-30 03:16 +0200
          Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-29 12:49 +0100
        Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-29 12:30 +0100
      Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 12:03 +1200
        Re: RTF vs XCode Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 23:56 +0000
      Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 12:20 +1200
        Re: RTF vs XCode ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-29 12:55 +0100
      Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 12:27 +1200
      Re: RTF vs XCode Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-29 12:32 +1200

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