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Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing!

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing!
Date	2017-08-07 10:26 +0200
Organization	PointedEars Software (PES)
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Ned Latham wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>> It has been shown time and time again that objects that are moving
>> relative to the observer *are* observed by them to be shorter than
>> when they are at rest relative to them.
> 
> False.

No, you just do not know them yet.

> Thought "experiments" show nothing.

I am not talking about thought experiments, but *actual* *observations*: 
like atmospheric muons which do reach the surface when, according to lab 
experiments at rest, they should have decayed long before.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_contraction#Experimental_verifications>

Recently, I also have read about the observed effect of length contraction 
on the light received from a star (or a galaxy?), but I do not remember what 
it was called or how it exactly worked.

-- 
PointedEars

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In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-03 03:07 -0700
  Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Npierre Imaux <tr@ieewerr.cp> - 2017-08-03 10:51 +0000
    Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:33 -0700
      Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Otten Schneijders <jii@pouartj.op> - 2017-08-03 19:53 +0000
        Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:22 -0700
  Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-03 06:08 -0700
    Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:33 -0700
      Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Vliert Snijders <ouwi@leolaph.wo> - 2017-08-06 09:48 +0000
        Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-06 18:48 +0200
          Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-06 22:26 +0000
          Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-06 21:20 -0500
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-08-07 09:24 +0200
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-07 00:52 -0700
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-08-07 15:27 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-07 07:08 -0700
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-07 08:44 +0000
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 05:05 -0500
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-07 10:26 +0200
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-07 08:54 +0000
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 05:14 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-09 12:40 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 07:32 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-09 17:03 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 01:02 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 16:49 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 01:10 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-09 23:15 +0000
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 01:36 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 01:39 -0700
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-10 03:46 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-10 03:31 -0500
          Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-06 23:27 -0700
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-07 08:35 +0000
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 07:55 -0700
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 05:21 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:17 -0700
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-09 10:36 -0700
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 16:52 -0500
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:28 -0700
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-10 03:50 -0500
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-09 05:17 -0500
  Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:26 -0700
  Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-03 12:06 -0700
    Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 12:51 -0700
      Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-06 11:57 +0200
        Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-06 10:59 +0000
        Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 15:54 -0700
          Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-07 20:18 +0200
            Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 11:48 -0700
              Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-08 22:46 +0200
                Re: In 1905 Einstein Deduced ... Nothing! JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 13:50 -0700

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