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Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation
Date 2016-04-30 18:37 +0200
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Fritz Lasinger wrote:

> 5. The ratio of wave length λ to the distance x is konstant for all
> Gravitons.
> 6. The wave length λ so so long, that we cannot observe any wave
> properties.

See below, respectively.

> 7. The lifetime of gravitons is very long, so we cannot
> observe disappearance or disappearance.

Inconsistent with its elaboration below.
 
> 5: With λ=h/|p|=h/|mG*c| and mG=-G*m1*m2/(x*c^2) and m1=m2=mP (mP:
> proton mass - ) we get
> λ=h/|-G*mp^2/(x*c^2)*c)| or
> 
λ/x=(h*c)/(G*mP^2)=(6.626E-34Js*2.998E8ms^-1)/(6.67E-11m^3kg^-1s^-2*(1.67E-27kg))≈1.1E39=const.

Not even wrong.
 
> 6: λ/x≈1.1E39: The wave length of the gravitons is so much larger than
> the distans of the positive masses (for example protons), that one can
> say, we cannot observe wave properties.

Inconsistent with modern quantum mechanics which states that *every* 
particle exhibits wave properties; it can be described by a characteristic 
wavefunction that is a solution of the Schrödinger equation.
 
> 7. The maximum flight distance before disappearing is r=c*∆t=h/(2*mG*c)
> according to PointedEars 24.04.2016, 10:57.

This is a gross misinterpretation of what I said there, and inconsistent 
with the summary above (if the particle can disappear after "flying" r(m), 
how can we not observe its disappearance?).  I said instead that the (*one-
way*) range of a force is limited by the (*rest*) mass of its virtual 
exchange particle.

> If follows the ratio of maximum flight distance r to the distance of the
> masses mP (assuming |mG| instead of mg):
> r/x=(h*c)/(2*G*mP^2)=λ/(2x)≈0.5E39.
> The flight distance is so much, that the gravitons can fly very very
> often between two masses.

Not even wrong.


Score adjusted

PointedEars
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   when he went camping?  
A: 'Gone fission'.
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A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-23 23:13 +0200
  Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-24 10:57 +0200
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-24 18:07 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 05:11 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 09:42 +0200
  A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:48 -0700
    A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:53 -0700
      A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:59 -0700
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 11:07 -0700
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-26 20:52 +0200
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 12:15 -0700
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 15:49 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:07 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 00:37 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:33 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:55 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:11 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 08:35 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:48 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:07 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 13:09 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 07:27 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 08:11 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 13:37 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:27 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:01 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:08 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:18 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:38 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:50 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:10 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:30 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-30 09:03 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 15:37 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:00 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 10:45 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 10:57 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 20:13 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 11:07 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 20:14 +0200
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 11:47 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:46 +0200
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:32 -0700
  Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 17:12 -0700
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 21:15 -0700
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 21:32 -0700
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-29 19:42 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 05:50 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 17:01 +0200
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:13 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:44 +0200
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 04:12 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 17:31 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:37 +0200

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