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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?
Date	2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<250720152044593147%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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<71c50$55b40ccb$adb2d18a$1241@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, M.L.
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> > until recently, the blacklists were per-carrier, so a blacklisted at&t
> > phone could work on t-mobile and vice versa, but now the carriers share
> > the list so if one blacklists it the rest know about it.
> > 
> > it may be possible to take a blacklisted phone overseas, however.
> 
> I just called 611 on my cellphone to get T-mobile. 
> 
> I told them I was going to buy a phone on Craigslist, and that I wanted 
> to give them the IMEI for them to tell me if it's blacklisted.
> 
> In addition, I asked them if my phone is stolen, could they blacklist it 
> for me if I asked them to.
> 
> Surprisingly, I found out that you are correct!
> 
> They told me three things:
> 1. They *do* maintain a blacklist, and that I can just call them with an 
> IMEI to ask if it is on that blacklist.

or go to their website:
<http://www.t-mobile.com/verifyIMEI.aspx>

there are also sites that can check across multiple blacklists and even
tell you why it was blacklisted. 

> 2. They will *add* an IMEI to the blacklist, but, only if the owner of 
> record reports it (an owner, by their rules, is simply someone who has 
> had 30 days or more of their service using that IMEI number).

if the owner defaults on paying for the phone, it will automatically be
blacklisted. 

> 3. They will *unlock* a T-Mobile phone, but, only under the same 
> conditions of it being 30 days in the account of the person who is 
> calling up to have it unlocked.

<https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588>

Device eligibility is determined as follows:
  €  The device must be a T-Mobile device.
  €  The device must not be reported as lost, stolen or blocked to
  T-Mobile.
  €  The account associated with the device must not be cancelled and
  is in good standing.
  €  You have requested no more than 2 mobile device unlock codes per
  line of service in the last 12 months.
  €  The device must satisfy all the Postpaid or Pay in Advance
  (Prepaid) Unlocking terms outlined below.
  €  T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information
  in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.

Unlock eligibility for monthly phones, tablets, and mobile internet
devices
  €  The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at
  least 40 days on the requesting line.
  €  If the device is financed using T-Mobile¹s Equipment Installment
  Plan (EIP)or if it's leased through JUMP! On Demand, all payments
  must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
  €  If the device is on an account that is under a service contract
  term, at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or
  the account has migrated to Simple Choice no contract rate plan.
  €  If the device is associated with a canceled account, the account
  balance must be zero, including all pending charges

Unlock eligibility for Pay in Advance (Prepaid) phones, tablets, and
mobile internet devices
  €  The device has been active on the T-Mobile network for more than 1
  year on the requesting line.
  €  If the device has been active for less than 1 year on the
  requesting line, the Pay in Advance account associated with the
  device must have had more than $25 in refills for basic phones or
  $100 in refills for smartphones or tablet since device first use date.

> So, you were right.

yes, i know.

> The rules must have changed in the few years between my last iPhone 
> Craigslist experience and now.

it hasn't.

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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 10:17 +0200
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-22 08:36 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:15 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:33 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 16:43 +0200
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:53 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 17:02 +0200
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:37 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:36 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:34 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:43 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:30 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:57 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 15:58 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 16:39 +0200
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:39 -0400
          european contracts (was: Who pays for a phone..) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-05 09:01 +0000
            Re: european contracts JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-08-05 12:26 -0400
            Re: european contracts (was: Who pays for a phone..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:09 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 04:21 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 16:37 +0200
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-22 12:01 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:43 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:57 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 16:06 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 14:40 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:24 -0700
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 17:06 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:57 +0200
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 10:01 +0200
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-07-22 15:25 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-23 14:22 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 00:14 -0700
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-24 08:07 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:02 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-24 14:38 +0200
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-24 18:20 +0000
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:10 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 18:21 +0000
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:02 +1000
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 10:06 +0200
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:06 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 10:23 +0200
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:09 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 10:12 +0200
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:38 +0200
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:33 +1000
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-30 17:25 +0200
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:28 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 15:50 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:18 +0000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:00 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 11:13 +0200
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 10:30 +0200
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:47 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 18:13 -0400
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:18 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:33 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 16:49 +0200
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:40 +1000
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-23 17:29 +0000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-24 18:11 +0000
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-24 14:47 +0200
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:47 +0200
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:43 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:50 +0200
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-28 12:21 +0100
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:44 +1000

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